How are heroic raids in Cataclysm Classic? Too hard? Just right? Where to start?

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The heroics aren't too hard, the normals are too easy is the problem. They do not prepare you for heroics because you can just ignore every mechanic which I find a bit frustrating

The hardest part of heroic raids is having to swap out two guildies on the second raid night because someone who was there on tuesday had something come up and having our lockout bug and brick our heroic chimeron kill

I agree with all of the comments here. The disparity between Normal and Heroic is insane. We one tapped every boss week one on normal and then couldn't get a single kill in HC because Normal does absolutely nothing to prepare you for the new mechanics of HC.

The difficulty is tuned really well I think. Almost every boss is a pretty easy breeze on Normal mode, guilds and pugs that get easily filtered can still do their full Normal clears, might have to give up on a Nef kill now and then but still enjoy the tier. Half the bosses on Heroic are decently easy so guilds with some coordination that went 8/12 in ICC Heroic can get a bunch of Heroic loot out of it and enjoy their time. Guilds that want to push that extra bit harder that killed Heroic Lich King with buffs can work on the next third of Heroic bosses that are satisfying progression bosses and the last 3 are there as a good challenge for the guilds that were able to kill Lich King Heroic before the buffs started rolling out big. Normals are easy but Normals should be faceroll and the Heroics range in difficulty from Spicy Normal to "can you get your raiders to watch a boss video?" to "can your raiders raidlead this fight?"

I’m mainly happy that we don’t have wrath naxx difficulty for heroics, it’s nice to do progression again on the bosses.

id watch some Scottejaye heroic raid guides videos for sure!

I think the balance is quite solid if I'm honest. Normal is easily puggable with alts and mains alike to make gearing up for heroics a breeze while heroic has some real kick to it, exactly how I like it.

Are you going to do any boss guides?

My 25m team cleared every normal raid without issues and we couldnt do a single heroic because of the difference between norm and heroic, you can put a 342 in a norm and theyll do great but put a 349 in a heroic and theyll get oneshot the differences between difficulties are super big and norms shouldve been a bit more like SOD raids to test us and make us learn mechancis in every clear we did we basically ignored most mechancis unless absolutley necessary because we had 3 dks hitting for 25k singletarget an arms warrior and 3 hunters all hitting for 30k single target so we didnt have to worry but heroics will likely take us like most people an extra week to clear norms again for gear for low gear people to actually clear since we still have a few low ilvls

I feel like they're just hard enough. Our guild will be able to do progress raid on HC bosses for weeks, and whenever we start running out of time, we can finish on normal and still get upgrades from that.

Much respect. Have enjoyed your content for some time now. I’ll stray from WOW then see what you are saying about current content and get back involved. Keep up the great work and achieving your goals.

I think they are just right. I suspect you will be posting soon about the changes coming to the Fair and Valor points.

I don't think HC is too difficult, I think Normal is too easy! Hard to practice for HC and then "accidentally" kill the boss, only to get wiped all over the floor in HC. Took us a while to understand the Magmaw bug as well, that was fun :P

Would you consider doing guides for 10 man specific heroic strats? Seems most guides only talk about 25 man and some things just don't really transfer

Don't forget if you know some elite pvpers from your guild you can find the rested xp guide that way too ;)

Scotte must be pumped for Euro 2024.

This tier I feel like there's 1 level of difficulty in the middle of N and H that's missing. If there was another difficulty that was harder than normal, and Heroics would be a bit harder, you'd have such a smooth curve to progress. Right now you have normal that is a roflstomp since week one, while not being able to kill a single boss on H, kinda weird. But, at least I appreciate there's a harder difficulty that you can keep on progressing sometime.

How would you go for Chogall as the 2nd boss in BoT? It's not like you can just skip 2 bosses and go straight to the end bosses?

Omnitron was our 2nd Heroic after halfas