Film Music that Copied Classical Music
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Published 2020-06-20
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S N A P C H A T: Brettybang | Eddy.Chen
All Comments (21)
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“Our ears should speak for itself” -Brett 2020
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Plot twist: composers copied Star Wars as Star Wars is based, “a long time ago in a galaxy far far away”
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Stravinsky: "A good composer doesn't imitate, he steals" John Williams: "My man, I'm so glad we are on the same page here. And by the same page I literally mean the same page of your Rites of Spring. You are being very helpful indeed, mate, cheers." Stravinsky: "Hey..."
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11:41 this is actually correct, directors will often find outside music as a placeholder before their composer writes original music. The problem is sometimes the directors start falling in love with the original piece forcing the composer to strike a balance between something original and sticking to the placeholder 🥶
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Star Wars took the "CLONE Wars" way too literally.
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“A good composer does not imitate; he steals.” ― Igor Stravinsky
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You know you're a classical musician when you say things like "That Augmented 4th is so obvious"
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The look of disbelief on my students' faces when I showed them the star wars/holst connections... always delights me no end.
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I played the cd of Holst for some elementary school kids and they said “That’s Star Wars!”
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regular person: (hears holst) is that star wars? brett and eddy: (hears star wars) is that holst?
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One that wasn’t included is the similarity between hedwigs theme from Harry Potter and Tchaikovsky’s Swan Lake. The comparison is pretty uncanny.
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As a star wars fan, and a musician, I don't know how to feel about this video.
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For Star Wars, George Lucas wanted Holst’s Planets as music for the movie.
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Alternate title: Brett and Eddy dragging John Williams for 13 minutes and 17 seconds
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Some years ago when I was helping teach music at a homeschool co-op, I wanted to introduce the kids to classical music. I knew I could get the attention of the older kids if I played Mars. As soon as they heard it they sat up and started commenting how it sounded just like Star Wars music. From then on they were open to listening to more classics. :)
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John Williams was an orchestrator initially. He knows his way around 20th century Music.
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“We’re gonna get copystriked by the copiers” Palpatine: Ironic.
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Stravinsky’s music in 1913: controversial and scandalous Stravinsky’s music in 1977: fit for a mainstream space film
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John Williams was deliberately referencing Korngold and early Hollywood in general. And referencing Holst's "The Planets" couldn't be more on point. In a sense, the original Star Wars score has a lot of satire or parody, but done so earnestly the parody isn't noticed. The point was to take the late-19th-century symphonic sound into space. Also it's worth considering the Doctrine of Affect. There really is nothing more heroic and majestic than a leaping perfect 5th in the brass section.
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In defense of Hans Zimmer, his music was for a "war" so he purposefully referenced Holtz "Mars." I loved that he used "Mars" there. Creatively done!!