Film Theory: Spider Man Saved NO ONE (3 Spider Man No Way Home Theories)

I don't necessarily think it would be unethical to force a cure onto Green Goblin. The Green Goblin is not Peter's patient. Norman is. And Norman definitely wants to be cured.

If they were just seconds from dying, it was pretty much near impossible for them to convince their spiderman that they've changed without sounding like a desperation ploy.

Can’t wait for the horror movie spin off: “ Spiderman: I’m in your home “

Didn't Spiderman appear at a function that Aunt Mae's charity was putting on during the second film? My memory is a little fuzzy but I'm pretty sure that happened near the beginning. That would explain how Happy and Mae met "through Spiderman". Neither of them would remember knowing Peter, but both of them would remember having a professional relationship with Spiderman and meeting each other at that fundraiser.

This movie was literally something out of my greatest dreams, and yet it was still even better than I could've imagined. Willem Dafoe was astounding in this movie

If you go by how the spell works in the comics, then everything makes sense. In the comics, the spell isn't a one time erase, but rather a permanent block. In the comics, when somebody is reminded of something that was wiped, the spell blocks them from re-learning it. So based on the comics, Mysterio's footage would still exist but if anybody watched it again, the spell would block their brain from actually retaining the information so after re-watching any footage that connects peter to spider-man, they would just immediately forget it again. That's why MJ still has her necklace and peter can get an apartment, because nothing physical has changed, people are just now brainwashed into being incapable of being able to remember blocked memories.

Funnily enough, Spider-Man could have avoided this by just telling Dr. Strange to make the world forget the NEWS REPORT AND VIDEO, as opposed to making them forget SPIDER-MAN HIMSELF.

One thing that was left out was the look on MJ's face AFTER Peter leaves the coffee shop when he stops himself from bringing up any memories he had written down. You see her get that look on her face as though she DOES recognize him but not sure WHERE FROM. We all know that type of expression: the "I KNOW them from SOMEWHERE, I just can't remember where." Or that "I've seen their face BEFORE, but WHERE?!?" look. So there IS something that the new spell DIDN'T entirely remove. Ned never physically SAW Peter so his memory hasn't been jogged yet. But MJ's HAS to some small degree.

The saddest news is the fact that everything Sony related won't be connected to the MCU as you've said. They just teased us to mess with our feelings.

When did the memory erasure happen?

Yeah, this was my one main complaint here. Except! Doc Oc. armed with the information that he did die and how, Along with presumably the core from the printer stands a chance of shutting it down safely. Goblen being sane means he won't fly his glider into himself. Also means his son survives in theory. Electro without the power to pull all that electricity and overload himself may survive. Lizard is a wash as he survives and is cured anyway. And Sandman lives but is just not mutated. Oh and some of the missing characters may have been there but just lost or hiding as Venom was.

The real question is, what about the other spidermen? Are they forgotten too? Peter's wish was for everyone who knows Peter Parker to forget about him. But he's not the only Peter...?

To be fair, Peter isn't the reason they got into MIT. He's the reason they may have gotten BACK into MIT after they were rejected because they knew him. He never existed, leaving it to reason that they got in the first place.

Actually, the Dock Oc point fixes one of my biggest problems with the movie Doctor Octopus is from, that being why he had to drown himself with the machine. The answer is, because he knows his ability to control his arms is temporary and if he doesn't drown himself he will revert to a villan eventually. Now he doesn't have to drown himself with his machine.

I always assumed the memory spell worked by merging existing alternate reality in an adaptive way that would fit the requirement. That would allow the writers to make easy retcon for upcoming stories and would also explain why it ends up messing up the multiverse.

That was highly appreciated. I also thought the enemies still died and wasn't too put off by that. Thought it was cool, tragic irony the characters never considered. But the VERY end? Does he have an identification? Did he never go to their school? Was everything erased? How does she have the necklace? I really, REALLY appreciate you offering really sound possible explanations for that! 🥰

Well to be fair, the MIT part could be explained by saying they would’ve gotten into MIT to begin with. The main reason they didn’t was because of the reputation of Peter, not necessarily that they had bad grades. So that one isn’t necessarily Peter’s doing. I agree with everything else though

Just pointing this out here but it was always my personal headcanon that when Doc Ock said "I will not die a monster" he decided to sacrifice himself to plunge the Fusion Reactor into the river with him along with it since he knew he would lose himself to the tentacles again so if he's cured he'll just plunge it in there WITH the help of Spider Man and escape to live another day.

Doc Oct was still a bad guy when he had him by his throat. the lizard wasn't cured yet, and Osbourne wanted to be cured, it was the Green Goblin that didn't want to be cured. It's all about when in their timeline they were pulled into Holland's universe. Clearly, they were pulled from different points in time from their universe.

Also, while casting the spell the first time, Peter told Dr Strange, that Aunt May, MJ (girlfriend) and Ned ( best friend) should still know, so basically, they were taken out of the equation