Budget vs High End Comms : How to set it all up - A tribute to Hoplopfheil

Published 2021-09-26
Today we look at budget vs high end comms setups to help remove some of the confusion about the different tiers and how to set it all up.

Budget Vs Gucci Comms - Hoplopfheil
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The first thing to remember is that it doesn't matter how fancy your radio setup is if you don't know how to use your radio. Spend the time with a cheap inexpensive radio to learn if you even like it, use it, or are interested in HAM and the licenses.

Everything we show here uses an inexpensive Baofeng radio. This is a radio anyone can purchase and is a great radio to learn on and grow out of. Starting with some super high end radio is not needed and is mostly elitist nonsense. Learn and outgrow your radio and pass it on to someone else on your team so you gain knowledge together.

The first setup we look at is just a radio. That's it. Just a radio in a pouch. This system is extremely basic but it's also cheap and effective. You have radio comms...but that may be about it. This setup isn't convenient and also makes using your radio or hearing your radio quite difficult.

We then take things up a level and move into an earpiece and microphone setup. This setup allows you to connect the mic cords into the two-prong connectors on your radio. The earpiece is then placed in your ear and under your hearing protection. Now you have the ability to hear your radio and interact with a pushbutton mic, but our ability to hear is now cut in half. With the radio mic jammed in our ear, any fancy multi-directional headsets are now just wasted.

So we take things up another level and add in a setup from Comm gear supply. Now, this setup is similar to our previous setup but includes various upgrades. The first is that the entire system can use a QD setup that allows you to connect to various radios. We also ditch the ear piece and use a 2 pin connector that can also take an adapter to a 3.5mm. This allows you to connect almost all commercially available active hearing protection headsets. You've not got your multidirectional hearing back with a system that fully integrates the radio and hearing protection in one.

Going up just one more level, we connect the Baofeng into a Push to talk, or PTT for short. The PTT used to connect to the baofang uses a kenwood style connector to the radio and a U94 connector to go into our headset. You can also sub in a PTT that uses 5 pin connectors in the same location if you're looking to connect into military style radios.


Hopefully, by seeing some of the different comms setups available, you have a better understanding of what will work best for you and your needs. And how to put it all together!


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All Comments (21)
  • @agmsmith4079
    I have my general license... I’m telling everyone, programming a baofeng is actually quicker and easier than a lot of the other super expensive radios like Yaesu and Kenwood!!! I usually recommend a baofeng to everyone for their first radio. Like you said, start cheap, outgrow the radio and then move into expensive ones.
  • @zacharyfett2491
    There’s nothing more dangerous than a person with all the most expensive stuff, who has little to no idea how it all works. Solid video!
  • @francism9782
    Every time someone mentions Hops, somewhere in the world a person's Slickster rig is giving them trouble.
  • @smoovedave
    Thin line: “Repeat” Fires: “COWABUNGA ITS IS”
  • @Sprnklrmn
    You’re videos are very helpful bc I’m trying to learn these same things and this saves me a lot of time and confusion doing research in forums and such.
  • Looked up several vids on uv5r and comms setup. Different vods covered it different ways so still got something out of this. Thumbs up.
  • @paladin11C40
    One thing to remember, put your radio where you can reach it so you can change channels if your comms are compromised, and put the PTT button where you can push it with your off hand, not the hand that holds the gun. I am right hand dominate, so all of my comms stuff tends to be towards my left hand. Another way to help protect your comms for short distances, and not be triangulated, is to use a mesh network device. I am using GoTenna because there are many out there to help bounce a signal, the app is already on the app stores, and it uses end-to-end encryption to send text messages. Mesh dont use any infrastructure to operate, just think of them as a cheap radio with limited range (think Baofeng) that sends texts. Great video.
  • @theredcelt627
    I like it. I’ve been looking forward to this video. As usual, I think the best option for me is somewhere in the middle. I’ll have to watch again to pick what makes sense for my setup. Honestly, this is the first time in my life I’ve had people to use comms with. Most of the training I’ve done has been shooting. Haven’t really had the area to move or the people to communicate. Now that new avenues are opening to me, I’m loving expanding my skill set.
  • @willmcvey2851
    This channel has been so helpful when it comes to setting up my first rig
  • @viktorkanyik3416
    Finally a video about comms that actually answered my questions and not multiplied them. Thank you Mr.
  • @dad2022
    Excellent job brother. Thanks for continuing to put out great content.
  • If you find yourself in a situation here in the United States, where you need to be concerned about having encrypted comms, then your problems are bigger than you realize.
  • @braaap690
    Great video! It took trying 5 different PTT to find the correct one that worked with my Midland GXT and Peltor Comm 3. And and over a year of mailing the PTT back and forth! But Tony at Comm Gear Supply in California was dedicated to find the correct PTT.
  • @canidsong
    For my setup I made a flowerpot type coax dipole (without radome) that I can just weave into my carrier. I think it's working out very well.
  • @ZeonsZone
    Good looking out! Was going down the gear hole again this was very helpful. Especially with the earpro cable adapters. Saved my ass on dropping a big chunk of change on new ear pro for coms when my pt100's work great. Thanks for the info!
  • @davidboyd7773
    I can't believe I haven't seen this sooner great video. I would argue for non radio people to get a remote speaker mic with the 3.5mm connector and either a tube earpiece or a AUX cord to the ear pro. Less wires to keep track of on the kit.
  • @minnesotajames1
    One of the best videos I've seen on this topic. Well done. Really helpful for someone trying to get to that next level in comms.
  • I love my Boafeng tri band radios, just trying to find away to adapt them to helmet wear and in some cases without a helmet and I think this video gave me what I needed.
  • @Subgunman
    Great video! Very informative for nubies! Personally I like the Bowman PRR setup. Frequency hopping in the 2.4 GHz ISSM band. Squad spec. Short range up to 900 meters LOS. It will also screwup Bluetooth and WiFi comms of others who go for some of the gear based on those frequencies. Radio utilizes a single earpiece headphone style system with a condenser microphone. Held to ones head with a strap system that can be used under almost helmet system. PTT is on the side of the radio or there is a wireless PTT one can strap to their rifle or any other place they desire. Batteries. A weak point of many radios. Most Ham or medium to high tier radios use rechargeable batteries. One must keep several charged batteries on hand for a mission. This equals extra weight. Which can also result in the loss of several mags of ammo. The PRR uses plain old AA alkaline batteries. When your done chuck em'. (Not recommended, bad for environment) but one can keep a whole stack of batteries that weigh less than a rechargeable pack. Having lucked out and bought cut offs from non working headsets I have been able to make my own adapters to any headset that I own. As for long range comms, ham radios will do and unless this is a SHTF scenario where society has broken down DO NOT USE ham gear on FRS, MURS, or commercial frequencies. I prefer more current Motorola equipment with encryption for more serious and long range work. Yeah one needs deep pockets and must know what they are doing to use these toys but a bit more practical than using some of the old government PRCs (aka just plain ole Pricks). Yeah they are cool, cost a lot more than they are worth and a pain to repair since parts are almost non existent to civilians or are no longer made. One thing to remember is to use the KISS philosophy when setting up your gear. Semper Fi and 73