How can we fully understand 'The observer is the observed'? | J. Krishnamurti

Published 2017-08-06
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Saanen 1981 - Question #5 from Question & Answer Meeting #1

'Intellectually we understand that the observer is the observed, but what is necessary to perceive this so that it goes beyond the intellectual level?'
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All Comments (21)
  • @ivan987100
    I stay in one of the hostels in the University where I'm currently doing my PhD. I generally like to eat alone, by myself but I have a few friends who prefer to have their meals with others. I generally have trouble understanding this but I respect their need. In any case, recently, when I was having lunch in the mess, I was trying to understand why sometimes people feel lonely while eating by themselves. I realised that it is simply because one is looking at oneself as if from the outside. One looks oneself as if from another's eyes and judges oneself to be alone and therefore lonely. One is not lonely per say but becomes lonely by this judgement on oneself, by oneself, as if oneself was another. When I thought of that, when I gazed at myself as if someone else was gazing at me, I to felt lonely. The only way to not feel lonely was to simply be there and eat, without judging myself. It was a small moment but made me understand how the feeling of loneliness works. One splits from oneself and judges oneself as lonely. It is a sad feeling that comes from judging oneself as if another.
  • @BillSikes.
    I owe my life to K, this is what freed me from so much conflict, pain struggle and misery, it was a great awakening for me, it all just fell away before my very eyes, and has never returned, this was many years ago, I've lived a life of freedom peace and contentment ever since, thank you Krishnajai, I owe you a debt of gratitude I could never repay ❤️
  • @fatelvis6924
    Finally!! We're not the body and the labels we assign to ourselves and the society. We're a system in itself which is in continuous flux. It fragments itself and creates the ego, society and multiple labels out of itself and gets trapped in its self perpetuated illusion. It is the same system that becomes the observer and observes itself, thus creating conflict. There is only this one thing, not two. There is only the observation and not the observed. Once this fact is realised, the conflict ends. I had boycotted every religious dogma, but as I came to see the truth of this fact after a long time, the meaning of Mandukya Upanishad hit me hard in the face. This is where Hinduism and Buddhism meet. This is what Advaita Vedanta says, Thou Art That (The observer is the observed). I'm all the things of this world, it's happiness and sadness, pleasure and pain. The other people are not different from me.
  • @teachmetodo
    Amazing Wisdom!!!! When a different person is causing trouble physically or mentally to you, you run away from them, that is wiser thing to do. But when one's mind is causing problem, where can it run, from where to where, you are that problem. you can't run but just watch it. Then there is watching. The very watching is MAGICAL!!!! Thank you!!!!!
  • @thskendjeo134
    The observer is the observed The thinker is the thought Attention is the flame🔥 which burns it all This is what You have been craving for...
  • @ddrwizard
    I sufferered greatly over my moms passing, and i did feel lonely. When I seen that my body was suffering and watched it as I cried for the 100th time, it passed, i did not fight or supress... It was almost as if I had compassion for myself, nothing that no one else could give me... That was a month ago, and I had hadn't known this is what he was talking about till I in the past week started to do this with a lot of other feelings with my other losses and shame and guilt... Yesterday I felt i could use this with minute things like being annoyed, frustrated, or whatever feeling I felt in parts of my body, and quickly those go away too and my mind became more clear. I had the best day despite sleeping for 2 hours, I relied on myself to figure things out and the anxiety and complaints about being tired never happened.
  • @auroramaria6354
    This means that we are the creators of our own personal life, what kind of history I am telling me, what kind of believe I had in my brain... we choose how we feel and what we think what kind of power we gave to every word we spoke... everything starts and ends inside us
  • Observer is the observed अगर हम दूसरों की अच्छाई अच्छाई या बुराई को देखकर प्रतिक्रिया देते है तो प्रतिक्रिया तो वह व्यक्ति नहीं होता बल्कि खुद होता है।
  • @ravikiran925
    I have kept my hands on fire many times just to experience things. There were people who begged, hugged, and did all kinds of things to keep me away from fire. I never listened; most times I burnt myself, and a few times I burnt the ones holding me. But the moment this journey started inward, trying to know Thyself, all those experiences that turned many into ashes went straight to the garbage. Because the experiencer was never different from the experience; he was the experiment experimenting Himself ❤️.
  • India have given the real knowledge required for this world...the perfect knowledge and direction. My views on J.Krishnamuti has increased immensely after watching this video...He is a true gem.
  • I can somehow relate this with a phenomenon that happens in my dreams occasionally. In the dream, I am caught in a quagmire of jungles or in some inexplicable haze of doors of large house etc. 1. When I try to make an effort to get out of the situation then it worsens. 2. But when I become quiet then the dream ends automatically. Let us suppose, if I come out of the dream somehow from the effort as explained in the point (1) above, I will have a continued anxiety to avoid getting into the same dream. On the other hand, if I come out of the dream without any effort as explained in the point (2) above, then I will not the continued anxiety. It is as if it is OK - no fear..
  • like has said the Budha even when you goes to sleep watch your self,watch without judgment just watch dont do anything!it will happen it will fire the light inside us.
  • @imnotallergic
    The knowledge that the observer is the observer can be known only when is experienced, it cannot be known intellectually
  • @alphag5491
    Thanks to supporters of this channel to keep his work alive. Master of intelligence jiddu
  • The intense the observation, the intense is the experience of present moment
  • @mquillan
    True,same thing with fear .Full respect to J.Krishnamurti....Peace.
  • @2106harish
    Excellent. Great video. Great insight! Thank you!
  • @macdougdoug
    I have vague memories of being there as a 13 year old boy - the observer is the obseved stuck in my head as an incomprehensible challenge; and also the delicious jam donuts in Saanen village.