Japanese | Can you solve this ? | A Nice Math Olympiad Algebra Problem

Published 2023-12-29
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  • @ms9035
    After reaching the following equation, it is better to do the rest of the operations in the following simple and easy way to avoid the complexity of the answer. ( a+b)^2 + 2( a+b) = 8 (a+ b )^2 +2 (a+b) + 1 = 8+1 = 9 ( ( a+b) +1 )^2 = 9 (a+b)+1 = 3 or ( a+b)+1 = -3 a+b-2 =0 or a+b+4 = 0 And then we will continue to write the answer in the same way as you have done. Thank you my best friend
  • Just substitute y=sqrt(x-1) and collect terms into the form sqrt(y^2 + 2) = (4 - y^2)/(1+y) - 1 Now square both sides and rearrange to get (y^2 + 2)(1 + y)^2 = (3 - y - y^2)^2 Expand and note that what appears to be a quartic actually degenerates to a quadratic with only one non-spurious root. The answer x=5/4 follows.
  • @rober3072
    There is a mistake a² >= 0, then a >= 0 or a<= 0 . With b² >= 2 then b>= sqrt(2) or b<= sqrt(2). But a=sqrt(x-1) and b=sqrt(x+1), with x>= 1, then a >= 0 and b >= sqrt(2). The solution is OK, but the reasoning is incorrect
  • @gerhardb1227
    Thank you for your solution: Here another approach: substitute x = a^2 + 1 will result in a quadratic equation => 8a² +10a-7 = 0 a1 = 1/2; a2 = -7/4 a1 will be a valid solution = 1/2
  • @woodymoore8759
    The presenter makes the incorrect statement that "a squared - b squared is in the form of a perfect square" more than once.
  • @knotwilg3596
    Observe that the square of the inner terms equals 2 times the outer terms: (v(x-1)+v(x+1))² = 2x + 2v(x²-1) Set t = v(x-1)+v(x+1); (A) we get t + t²/2 = 4 or t²+2t-8=0 This quadratic equation has solutions t= -1 +/- 3 = 2 or -4. Since t is the sum of sqrts, it's positive and only t=2 is valid. Set u = v(x-1) then v(x+1) = v(u²+2) (A): 2 = u + v(u²+2) or 2-u = v(u²+2) square that, so (2-u)² = u²+2 so u²-4u+4 = u²+2 so -4u = -2 so u = 1/2 So x = 5/4
  • @jarikosonen4079
    At 4:01 if you add one on both sides, what will happen? (Numbers on right side getting bigger?) 17:46 Eq. 3, could be solved directly also backsubstituting both a and b. Key seems right substitution.
  • @rezanader5770
    Hi, at the beginning of solution the obtained domain is incomplete. You should also solve 4-x>=0. So the domain is 1=
  • @Pierre1O
    Nice solution! Note: Sqrt of any value is always positive, so a+b is always positive. No need for all these inequalities to prove a+b /= -4.
  • @user-pv7jv3dc9s
    To be shortly solving, let's ander root x-1 + anger root x+1 =t, Than will be= t power 2+ 2time t+=8, » t+1 powe2 =9» t+1 =3 t=2 and etc.
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  • @captainteach007
    by the way, perfect square is not the same as difference of squares
  • @user-xc5os4ep3n
    Икс в квадрате минус один-это же (х-1)(х+1)😊
  • @gruba4630
    Condition that square roots must be real numbers is not mentioned in the original problem, you introduced it yourself, so your solution is partial. Also, you spend too much time explaining what should be obvious for this math level. It would be nice to know which Japanese math olympiad it was, year and level. Otherwise, very nice presentation.