Birkeland Eyde Arc Process nitric acid production
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Published 2023-03-15
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All Comments (21)
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Like a true man. Spends thousands of dollars to save 80 bucks
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next up make a fertilizer machine... bubble thru dolomite and water. gives you magnesium nitrate and calcium nitrate. Also if you use some magnets the arc will fan out along the magnetic lines.
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Nitrogen Oxide is colorless, Nitrogen Dioxide is the brown gas so the tests you were performing might not have been producing good results for other reasons like insufficient oxygen to convert the NO. I had an idea to retain the maximum amount of Nitrates, make the NO2 directly into a Sodium or Potassium Hydroxide solution, it will turn directly into the Nitrate and the NO will pass through and can be re-oxidized.
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Yes, might work better at 30v once hot plasma starts arcing. save lots of KW! And use a feed gas of proper N and O ratio.
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Awesome expirementation! Thanks for sharing your results!
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This is amazing, the experiments you did are very valuable to me, thanks.
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Very cool stuff mate Keen to see more
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You just needed Platinum tips yo. An oil burner ignition transformer, little bit of platinum and you'll have that jar Brown AF in like 5 minutes flat
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Outstanding work, nitric is in short supply in the UK, we have seen a 160% rise in price since this time last year, i cant do my small scale metal refining without it . I have been looking into the viability of making a BR, i have high voltage as a hobby so have a head start. I have a 75 pound beast of an X-ray machine transformer here that will put out 40kv at scary amps, but i have a hunch it is gonna destroy everything i put near it. I was going to use thoriated tungsten electrodes. Ime glad i found your channel, i will give a pair of stainless steel rods a try. I have a 2 foot bell jar but ime concerned i will kill it, that thing cost a heap some years ago.
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Super interesting! Thanks for sharing. Im working on an ozone generator and I kept seeing people sometimes talking about making HNO3 with them as well and was a bit confused. Subscribed! Keep uploading :-)
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Reminds me of another YouTuber, Photonicinduction. That guy really likes the high voltage stuff. Always enjoy your tangents. One adhd mind to another.
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As a reactor if air is dry you can use stainless, NOx barely attack stainless in a dry enviroment (jet engines are still kind of wet), for the arch generator you can use a second low voltage high amperage DC unit after the voltage multiplier... More or less as the Hf plasma start in welders and plasma cut. First air is ionized by the low current high voltage after air now is conductive even a cheap stick welder will allow you to dump hundreds of amps. It's a bit counter intuitive design witch require some diode protection. It have mainly 2 plus you can tune the amps you dump in and is less likely to be lethal since its all dc courrent.
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Your apparatus appears too complex….The brown gas Is NO2 . Try misting , recirculating, H2O2 at the top sides of the reaction vessel! I think the peroxide will absorb the gas better than water. Just a thought. But it should maintain a cooler reactor while still allowing the higher reaction temperature
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You might be interested in the Nodon Process. It involves electrolysis of peat, but at way lower potentials and with high yields.
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Love to see you increase the pressure
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Super! Thank you very much!
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the jaccobs ladder was used under the name pauling process in austria it had an effizencie of 3,5% birkeland eyed only 1,5%. They wrote the advantege of the jaccobsladder is the air is cooled faster but it can only produce very deluted NO so you can only reach an acid with 30%. If you have more heat your NO is more concetrated and you can achieve highter concentrations but energie effizience is lower.
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you get into the craziest stuff
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Nice intent, cheers
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Awesome. I’ve managed to get more use out of broken stuff with clear RTV silicone caulk. But then again you have HHO so you could perhaps fix the glassware. You need to bring it up to annealing temp and slowly cool it so it doesn’t crack after the repair. Or QGlass in the USA or China sells quartz glassware that can handle 1100°C.