Did Joe Rogan BLAME WWE RUINING WRESTLING?
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Published 2023-11-16
This is a clip from Joe Rogan Experience episode 2063 with The Rock as guest
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All Comments (21)
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It’s crazy how fast joe switches up when around pro wrestlers. Anytime else he looks down on it
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I wrestled in middle & high school & I loved going out & competing but I hated watching everyone else do it because it can be so boring. That's one reason pro wrestling became predetermined because people got bored with it.
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WWE is popular because it’s stories. Star Wars isn’t popular because it’s space battles, but because it tells a compelling story. Similarly WWE uses wrestling to tell stories. When it’s bad it’s because there’s no story to grab hold of and invest it.
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My dad took me to MSG to see Hogan in the 80s and I loved it cuz I thought these guys were really trying to kill each other. Now I know it’s a work and I ask myself “How do they not kill each other every match?”. I still love it because these dudes to have to NOT paralyze each other and that seems harder to me with the stunts they’re pulling.
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I think it's actually pretty brilliant how it turned into a theatrical event with insane storylines and very entertaining.
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Japan's pro wrestling as we know it today took its start after WWII. Wrestler promoter Bobby Bruns was instrumental in helping to set things up, and introducing the Japanese fans to people like Mike & Ben Sharpe and, later, Lou Thesz. The Thesz/Rikidozan match in October 1957 was watched by over 85% of all TV sets in Japan; no-one has ever had a higher rating for their matches. They set TV sets up on poles in the middle of the street so people could watch. Absolutely wild. A few years later, RIkidozan/The Destroyer drew an 65% share, when there were many more TV sets in the country. Freddie Blassie, Bobo Brazil, Billy Robinson, Karl Gotch and a few other North American stars did big BIG business there through the 60s and into the late 80s. What grew there eventually evolved into what you see today, but it's early years in the late 40s and early 50s, it was mostly indistinguishable from what fans would have seen in San Francisco or Chicago or even New York.
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Never been to a wrestling event before but I did see some NXT wrestling that was on at download festival one year in a tent. Hundreds of metal heads all watching holding a beer watching the heels talk smack about metal heads and get people all pumped up. Was so entertaining. Absolutely loved it.
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You should get William Regal on if you want to hear about the carny side of the wrestling business. That guy is legit.
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When I saw The Rock was on JRE, I was excited to listen. About an hour in, and I can’t take it anymore. Its like a 2.5 hour positive affirmation podcast. I am all for positive, don’t get me wrong. But I just feel like having The Rock on a podcast is so hard, because he is very protective of his image and it is no fun.
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This is definitely an interesting conversation unlike what Chael wants you to believe. There doesn’t have to be drama in everything for it to be or feel real. Enjoyed
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Wrestling (wwe,wcw,aew), free style wrestling , Greco Roman wrestling , sambo, Brazilian jui jitsu all comes from catch wrestling or influenced by catch wrestling techniques (Mitsuyo Maeda who taught the Gracie family had a catch wrestling background along with other grappling martial arts). Wrestling is shown on cave drawings 15-20,000 years ago and Sumerians had it as an official sport over 5,000 years ago influencing Europe and Asian grappling martial arts. My grandfather was an actual world champion wrestler at the end of the 30s beginning of the 40s. He beat the world champion (who was in the army) in a competition and WW2 started and he was in the marines. Started out as a PVT machine gunner, battlefield promoted to officer (full mustang not a shave tail) and retired as a Col. during Vietnam (turning down being a general).
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It’s easy to understand why amateur wrestling isn’t mainstream. Its boring. Tennis is more exciting because it has more action compared to amateur wrestling. Two people hitting fast spikes while moving left to right whereas you have two people laying down grabbing each other. That’s the reason why the wnba for example struggles compared to the nba. Even though it’s the same sport, the nba is just more exciting because it has more action in terms of speed/dunks.
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Should have asked him if he ever saw the movie "Nacho Libre" with Jack Black being an Mexican wrestler 😂
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The book fall guys written in the 1930s details how wrestling changed from a legit sport to a work. It details the rise of the goldust trio and wrestlers such as Ed the strangler Lewis. It's a fascinating read and everything since has been a rehash of something that occurred previous, including double crosses, screw jobs, angles, and turns. It's a great glimpse not only into wrestling but promotion, business and capitalism in this country. If you get the wrestling business you can understand politics, religion, business and capitalism. I'd put this up with Pimp by iceburg slim as capitalist manifestos
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JOe with his fluffy hoodie on when the guest is a bigger more muscley guy.
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The early days of joe rogan podcast he used to shit on pro wrestling all the time calling it fake but now he acts like he’s a huge fan.
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Interesting choice by The Rock to go onto this platform. If I'm honest, I expected him to have an interview on The Broken Skull Sessions with Stone Cold. That would have been awesome. Outside of the fact that Joe Rogan is a much bigger podcast platform, I've seen this guy make fun of wrestling countless times.
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Pro Wrestling hasn’t been good since 2005. Peak was 98-99.
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I agree with the rock, I used to do school safety and I had to be security for after school, where the wrestling team either practice or had competitions, and my god it was boring, there was a few exciting take downs every once in a blue, but for the most party both dudes are scrabbling on the ground, imaging watching mma and they just rolling around on the ground the whole time
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Sumo wrestling is very entertaining. All it needs is a weight limit to ensure the competitors have an athletic physique