would a victorian child survive a 4loko?

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Published 2023-12-24
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All Comments (21)
  • Sounds like the best way to overstimulate a Victorian child would be to give them a nutritionally complete meal.
  • @tonie222
    “would a victorian kid handle our wacky modern era??” average victorian kid: “they found worms in martha’s tummy and peter lost two fingers at the mill. i pray every night to be with god but he ignores me just like papa.”
  • @mirmioo
    My only question after this video: how tf did ANYONE survive the victorian era?
  • @abook2141
    tangent but i love that william golding, the author of lord of the flies, said that the only reason he didnt include girls in lotf was bc he thought the story would've been handled within a day
  • @lbr88x30
    There were child prostitutes on the streets of Victorian London. Kids also drank alcohol and heroin, cocaine and arsenic were medicines. Child labor was the norm. Literacy and education and childhood were for the middle class and above.
  • @AR-de8qz
    Victorian children would take cocaine for a cough. They grew up drinking alcohol. Yes I'm pretty sure they could handle it lol
  • Mina, as a Deaf viewer, thank you for consistently captioning your content. Love to see it!
  • @NewFoundLife
    Yeah, the life of Victorian children is something out of a horror movie. The first court case of child abuse in the US, Mary Ellen Wilson, was in 1874. Wilson died in 1956, which is the same year both of my parents were born, so this is not even that long ago.
  • @zoeyc5851
    As a victorian child, love this video 😍
  • @NA-gz3vv
    I wanna give a working class Victorian child a hug and some warm mittens, they would deserve it :(.
  • Wow this is such an interesting perspectives on this. Its so true that Victorian children were (unfortunately) FAR hardier than children today. I think the "frail victorian child" stems from movie tropes as well of WEALTHY noble children and most people don't realize!
  • As someone whose cheekbones and eye bags gave me the comparison to a Sickly Victorian Boy this topic is near and dear to my heart
  • I would like to bring some more perspective into the comments about the coca leaf. As a Bolivian is important for me to share our understanding of coca leaves. Here we often say a phrase stating “coca is not cocaine”; because as a matter of fact this leaf has been part of our ancestral culture for millennia, serving as natural medicine. The idea that coca is cocaine is very much a western and imperial idea brought upon the drug crisis. To make cocaine out of coca leafs you need to heavily process it and add a bunch of chemicals that distort the natural elements of the leaf. Thus, it is certainly unfair and stigmatising to say that consuming coca leafs is similar to consuming cocaine. Bolivians still use coca leafs in natural and healthy ways, including tea, coca candies and even sodas. There is extensive research on how using it in its natural state is beneficial for the body. Furthermore, aside from the science; our history with coca leafs goes back centuries, back to the Inca empire, proving its historical role as a medicinal plant. Of course, my country has problems with cocaine production. But I find it very important to state how there is a difference between coca leafs and cocaine, as we need to differentiate them to better address the problems with narco production.
  • @hewhoadds
    22:20 the commandment “respect your parents so you may live a long life” is the most mobster veiled threat i’ve ever heard to be fair
  • @Alex-ci4mz
    this meme has always bothered me for all these reasons, thank you for setting the record straight hahah
  • @Trassel242
    The old word in Swedish for rickets, a disease caused by extreme lack of vitamin D in childhood that can mess up your skeleton and joints, was “the English disease”, since it was so common among the poor factory workers’ children in the UK. It also took them a rather long time to get around to making laws that you have to label the ingredients of stuff you’re selling, so it’s very likely that lots of Victorian people didn’t know they were eating bread with toxic chemicals in it and so on. Any kid that survived being born in Victorian times would be tough just from that alone, so it’s kind of mean to imply they were wimps or weak.
  • Ive never heard Victorian children described as "festive" before 😂😂😂
  • @itsROMPERS...
    Dickens was basically the first global media star. He published his stories mostly in pamphlets that were released on a regular schedule, and they were so popular that people all over the world would go to the docks on the days the pamphlets were expected and buy them out right away. They sold in the millions. He also traveled the entire world doing readings which were always sold out. He was the Taylor Swift of his time.
  • @ElysianBean
    Thank you for standing up for the Victorian Children LOL. It does feel like a random topic, but it's been my Roman Empire lately because my sister just had a baby and when I see "belladonna free" on over the counter teething medications, I think about that Victorian Era menstrual cramp remedy of opium and belladonna. When all the memes flooded Tiktok I was just like, have any of you seen the medications, working conditions, or general living conditions for the majority of people back then? Like you had to be TOUGH to survive regardless of your age, but especially for children 💀.
  • @johnrzepka2008
    Bro the cocaine they took as medicine would kill me today