Mustafa Suleyman on The Coming Wave of AI, with Zanny Minton Beddoes
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Published 2024-07-04
In September 2023 Suleyman came to the Intelligence Squared stage to discuss his new book The Coming Wave: Technology, Power and the Twenty-First Century’s Greatest Dilemma. In conversation with Zanny Minton Beddoes, Editor-in-Chief of The Economist, he explained how he believes we are approaching a critical threshold in the history of humankind. Soon we will live surrounded by AIs which will carry out complex tasks – operating businesses, running government services and maintaining infrastructure. This will be a world of DNA printers and quantum computers, robot assistants and abundant energy, as well as human-engineered pathogens and autonomous weapons.
We are not prepared, Suleyman argued.
While these tools hold the promise of solving global problems and generating immense wealth, they also bring the risk of upheaval on a scale we can barely imagine. Suleyman explored how these forces threaten the very foundations of the nation state and the global order. And he argued that we face an existential dilemma: on the one side lie unprecedented harms arising from unchecked and unregulated AI, and on the other, the threat of overbearing surveillance from the state. Can our governments forge a narrow path between too much openness and too much control? Or are we sleepwalking into disaster?
Suleyman grappled with ‘the containment problem’ – the task of maintaining control over artificial intelligence and other powerful technologies – the ultimate challenge of our times.
Presented in partnership with Penguin.
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All Comments (21)
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September 2023
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So it is an old video uploaded so lately…!!!
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It appears that we're headed toward more restrictions on free speech, eg. Facebook's criteria are so broadly stated that they can exclude discussion of subjects such as, "Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the terrorism of the rich."-- Sir Peter Ustinov
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Older but good interview. When he talks 10x he also is talking about power consumption which is starting to strain the grid
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This is an old interview
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The heightened interest of industry leaders at OpenAI, Apple, Google, Meta, Tesla, and X in Worldcoin and Proof of Humanity within the AI and Web3 era underscores a paradigm shift in digital identity verification. This signals a profound transformation in how we establish trust and authenticity in the digital realm.
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Mr Suleyman is eloquent and informative in his responses here regarding the geopolitics and technological challenges posed by AI.
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A lot of young kids are brought up by iPads and YouTube. It is convenient for parents. In the future it could be AI. Imagine a generation which grew up with AI. Quite a few might trust AI more than humans. Hence, it would not be too far fetched to assume that there might be a political party who would prefer an AI to govern us. This might sound crazy now but looking back things seem crazy to us now like paying people with alcohol or marrying at the age of 12 during the Victorian era.
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@0:29 November last year? Is this video a year old? Or did she miss speak? November 2022 is what she meant.
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PI was one of my first really positive experience with a chat bot and the first one I could see "Her" in. I really like the way Suleyman and Hassabis think.
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You can always tell in a Q&A, whether the person has a genuine question or if they are just wanting to make themselves look smart within the first five seconds they have the microphone.
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Around 1:01:40 Mustafa downplays the risk of AGI based on the assumption the goal seeking and agency required to be a threat would need to spontaneously emerge - that view neglects the fact there are countless tec-bros across the internet actively pursuing those capabilities (crowd manipulation, social engineering, control of economic tools) in the quest for billion-dollar-bots.
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His recommendation regarding how governments should take risks and experiment without drawing public scrutiny in case of failure is proof of a naivety about this could be abused by the corrupt.
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I just downloaded the book, but before I read it, I wanted to get an overview of who he was. This was a great video for that.
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he's an incredible individual.
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SB OFFICIAL AI NETWORK
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Consuming vast amounts of power for the servers, data center builders like me are struggling to find sites with enough power even in the Nordics for Al!
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Fantastic discussion.... Carry on.... 🤝☺️
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Mustafa is the best Engineer/Philosopher/Communicator I've heard out of all Ai experts. Just imagine having him as your professor, it would be the most exciting class.
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well the productivity in create wheat maybe grown in the past, so did the erosion of the soil. And soil erosion can NOT be fought by tech innovation.
