Jonathan Pageau: What atheists get wrong about the Bible, religion and Jordan Peterson

Been listening to Jonathan for years, but this is probably one of his best interviews. Can’t put my finger on why. Did they just ask the perfect questions?

After watching a video with Jonathan, I always think, 'I've got to re-watch this,' even though I have listened to him a lot and for a long time. What he says is always so pregnant, and the more I understand and connect the dots, the richer and more reasonable it becomes. I am really looking forward to hearing his take on Aion. Thanks for hosting him 🙏

Congratulations, this interview contains the clearest expression of Jonathan Pageau's understanding of the world I have heard, and I have been listening to him for a long time.

I love listening to Pageau because it is not about anything except trying to articulate ideas that he knows and deeply believes. Foundational, ancient, and applicable.

Very interesting discussion. I am a Roman Catholic who has been in all sorts of protestant churches before, recently, returning to RC church. This iconic meaning of liturgy is something which draws us out of our selves. I am drawn into the reality of Christ in Heaven. It is much more profound than the intellectual satisfaction of scriptural teaching and a few hymns - none of which is bad but not quite enough. In the Mass, we are not told what the scriptures mean in that clever way which the preachers do so well; we are rather left to hear Christ in His Words as they speak to us. And we join the angels in worshiping Him, even to accepting Him in his flesh and blood. These are not hings which require great intellect; it is more a thing of the heart. But it does make me aware of who I am; loved since before the creation of the world - by this God who is so much more than we could imagine yet very concerned about each of us, no matter how little or poor.

There are two "Houses" in reality: the Upper House and the Lower House. Science is the primary tool for studying the Lower House. Put simply, science is the tool used to identify, test, measure, and catalog things that cannot change their minds because they have no minds to change. Therefore, science is the study of enslaved things: fields, forces, and phenomena that cannot defy their purpose. Science is merely the study of mechanisms. The Upper House is where all the fun is.

Jonathon. You may be the theologian of the hour. I’m praying for you to fulfill all that Christ has for you here on earth.

Seen & Unseen up in here interviewing all of the people I love

I am a Swedish Christian who grew up in a Baptist church and in the western world's most secular society. I read the bible early and for me there has never been an Issue that things in the bible is written in a poetic way and with meaning, and still the stories are literally and historically true. God is outside our time and God used the people and histories in the bible to create the story he wanted. But often you can read how for instance the Israelites did not follow God's plan and God had to adjust it.

I just want to plug Jonathan's book, Snow White and the Widow Queen. It's absolutely enchanting. I've read it to my 6-year-old daughter repeatedly, and read it for myself too :) My expectations for this book were so high that I knew that when I finally got it I would be disappointed. But when it was in my hands at last, my expectations were exceeded. The illustrations are lovely, and the story hits hard. If you can get a copy, I highly highly recommend it.

Pageau is awesome!

Belle didn’t quite get it, saying we see patterns as things (objects) to which we later ascribe meaning. No, meaning comes first from patterns, which we then label as objects.

Richard Dawkins has a shallow superficial understanding of religion. No one has ever accused Dawkins of steelmanning.

What a wonderfully thought-provoking conversation! Thank you very much, y'all... ☝️😎

Intro has me hooked. This will be great.

Wow, your graciousness is so alluring. I'm used to Jay Dyer's caustic hardcore philosophy on Orthodoxy. Different personalities. Different gifts.

Pretty sure I’ve listened to every Pageau interview he has ever done, and this is in my opinion the very best. Long overdue, congrats. Do it again soon.

Great to Jonathan on here. Thanks Justin!

Glory to God! I was just talking to my woman about Matthew 11 where Jesus talks about His yoke being easy, and now I resume this video about 15 minutes later and Jonathan refers to this passage. ☦️🙏🏻 there are no coincidences, God plans all things with such a splendor, is amazing!

This was the first of your interviews that I watched and I immediately looked for another that would give confirmation of my need to sub, which I found! ThanQ!