Don't Make This Loudness LUFS Mistake

Published 2024-04-24
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Loudness for streaming services can be confusing for a lot, and the only thing I can say is: Don't make this loudness LUFS mistake when mastering for streaming services like Spotify.
I will break this down in this video.

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⏰ Timestamps ⏰

00:00 Introduction
00:33 Realization of the discrepancy post-mastering
01:10 Explanation of LUFS measurement types
02:20 Importance of integrated LUFS for streaming services
03:33 Impact of mastering at -14 LUFS
04:11 Understanding integrated LUFS and its implications
05:23 Practical demonstration using Loudness Penalty Studio
06:45 How streaming services normalize audio levels
08:10 Considerations for True Peak level and positive gain
09:25 Variation in normalization across different platforms
10:00 Optimal approach to LUFS targeting in mastering

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All Comments (21)
  • It's absolutely right. I did very similar experiments uploading directly on some platforms and reached to the same conclusions and they works well for me 🤗.
  • @ChrrZ
    thank you very much for this very informative video!! this cleared up alot of questions in my mind!
  • @ShonnMorris
    Thanks Chris, this confirms what I've heard from others as well. I've also had the best luck shooting for -9LUFS
  • @Musicalm
    I use the supervision pos on the track with the master plugins and accompany it with another supervision pos on the stereo out. Normally, the supervision pos on the track matches the value you mentioned in the video and on the stereo out pos it matches exactly - 14Lufs integrate. Thanks for the video!
  • @adelphitom
    Finally the video I’ve been looking for! Can’t tell you how long I’ve been pondering this issue haha. Thank you for the video
  • @shorerocks
    Sound advise. I agree. Thx for doing this.
  • @DigiMixAudio
    Works for me;' thanks for the insights and video!
  • @Willigrow
    Great info. Now lets be real, most commercial releases are at -8 all the way to -5LUFS sometimes. People target -14 and wonder why their stuff sounds smaller and weaker, this is why. My metal mixes are at around -10, and that's before mastering.
  • @BelovedChild
    Hy Chris Thank you for this wonderful Video! I understand your video this way: If I master in Cubase 13 ( not in Wavelab this I dont have) and there in Cubase my momentary max is -9 , but because of the dynamic it shows -14 Integrated Lufs for the whole song and I want to give it to Spotify then it`s ok? Or shall my momentary max go to - 8? I compose Popsongs: Strings Voice Piano Guitar Drums.
  • @hockley91
    I really didn’t know anything about LUFS until a few days ago. I’ve always mixed with db only and try to leave the dynamic range of the instruments intact. Having said that, it now appears, I may now need to go a step further and process with LUFS in mind because of the nature of how streaming services process audio on their end. Very interesting.
  • @foundpat
    Hi Chris, new sub here and getting back into cubase after many years on logic. Quick question Is there a way to identify, to see the quantization settings used in particular event. In logic when i move to a different track it shows you what quantize setting was used.
  • @Relvoet
    Nice penalty plugin, didnt know that yt doesnt gain quieter stuff, that is defenately one to take into consideration for the next project.
  • @gregpastic6910
    Please, don't AIM for a specific LUFS level. Each genre, each track, requires a different mastering approach to get the desired result. (Notice I said 'desired result' because it's always subjective.) Pay attention to how much limiting you are applying. Some tracks will need very little compression and limiting to make them sound good. Use your ears and always use good reference tracks of a similar genre or style. If your track ends up sounding great and hits -11.6 integrated LUFS with a TP of -1.4 that's cool. If it ends up sounding great at -9.2 with a TP of -0.4 that's fine too! If it sounds great at -14 with a TP of -1.8 go with it! Don't become meter-blind. I've measured hundreds of commercial tracks by top engineers and they NEVER aim for a specific loudness target. USE YOUR EARS. Then use the metering options to confirm (!) that your TP is ok. But don't master your track by following numbers on meters. It takes more time and experience to be able to do this consistently and get good results but it's worth the effort. Cheers from SoundArtMastering!
  • @raghavyadav1544
    Hey Chris, I usually set my markers at the start and end of the song and the do a render with zero limiting and true peak at -1 using pro-L2. Like your example, if the integrated value is - 16.9 I'll actually increase the gain by 2.9 db. This gives a - 14 LUFS value on the final render. Is this incorrect in anyway?
  • @JimCPettigrew
    Thanks for posting - so whats your advice for anyone uploading a track to DistroKid of CDBaby etc?
  • @tstsmusic
    At first... I've thought I've been watching the very beginning of the movie Total Recall with Arnold Schwarzenegger, then... I've seen Chris' face, Thanks God! Chris is still on the Earth!