Why Pipe Organs Sound Scary

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Published 2020-10-31
They don't, except for when they do

Edit:
So I want to clarify what I said about Bach not writing the Toccata and Fugue in d minor.
There's been a lot of discussion on the subject, and from everything I've gathered the answer is that this piece is one of the more anomalous in Bach's repertoire which, along with the lack of an original score written in Bach's hand, makes his authorship of the piece seem somewhat less that certain by a handful of Bach scholars.
However, until there is more substantive evidence, the convention is to attribute this piece to Bach.
So "Bach didn't write the toccata and fugue in d minor" may have been a little too strong here, maybe even misleading, and I just wanted to take a minute to completely clarify that point.
The quote from Jean-Claude Zehnder is "The matter still remains open, despite the scholarly discourse that began in 1981. Until proof of the contrary, BWV 565 should be considered as a work by Johann Sebastian Bach."

oops.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toccata_and_Fugue_in_D_minor…


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Sources:

A fantastic source on trying to decipher how much Bach actually appeared in the silent film cannon, as well as some scoring conventions of the time:
Status, Standards, and Stereotypes: J.S. Bach's Presence in the Silent Era
James M. Doering
search.proquest.com/docview/2306777140/fulltextPDF…

A brilliant article about the 1931 Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hide, I doubt I would've ever noticed that the organ in the opening was transposed down a minor third and this article shed a lot of light on one of the first ever horror soundtracks:
The Strange Case of Rouben Mamoulian's Sound of Stew: The Uncanny Soundtrack in Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931)
www.columbia.edu/itc/film/gaines/historiography/Mu…

Basically everything you could ever want to know about the narrative themes and significance of organs in films.
I cannot stress enough how valuable this source was and if you're at all interested in what a musical instrument could represent then you owe it to yourself to give this a read:
Carnival of Souls and the Organs of Horror
www.academia.edu/3138033/Carnival_of_Souls_and_the…



There are also a LOT of articles that outline the history of the Toccata and Fugue in d minor and its presence in film history, there's just too much to organize and they overlap a lot so I'm just going to link them all en masse here:

www.wqxr.org/story/what-makes-the-famous-bach-orga…

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/why-the-or…

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/why-the-or…

blog.oup.com/2012/08/pipe-organ-king-instruments-s…

theconversation.com/the-pipe-organ-more-than-just-…

www.wqxr.org/story/what-makes-the-famous-bach-orga…

books.google.com/books?id=iGN9x-OclFAC&pg=PA60&lpg…

www.classicfm.com/music-news/pictures/composer/sca…

All Comments (21)
  • @Sananjalka
    Ok, so organs are ancient, unreasonably large, maddeningly complex Eldritch horror instruments and organists are their creepy plotting followers. Got it.
  • @portiabartel
    Sideways really said "Organs are scary because Organists are scary"
  • @AngelicEra
    What I've learned: it's not that pipe organs sound scary, it's that pipe organists ARE scary.
  • @jdpragmatic8644
    The organ is often called the King of musical instruments. Essentially, it’s designed to sound like every other instrument. So it’s not that they sound scary, it’s that they sound impressive. They make scary music sound scarier, grand music sound grander, or sad music sound sadder. Oh And you mentioned “you have to be an octopus to play the organ.” 21:38
  • I'm quite satisfied that the reason organs are scary is because of organists. Our tendency to avoid sunlight and look like vampires probably doesn't help the reputation.
  • @AceSimGaming
    So when the villain is playing the organ he's basically flexing.
  • @mousermind
    The one thing you glossed over is the emotion. All these lonely intellectuals also feel pain, wrath, and more, and they play it through the organ. How often is the organ chosen to play a chipper melody? Not often. It's more often chosen to portray negative, raw emotion, like grief, anger, and sorrow. That's a major part of our apprehension upon hearing it being played.
  • @unbeatenlake790
    “Organists are weird, they play with their feet!” Davy Jones: Plays with beard
  • @lordsebasWL
    Organist here, there's a french organist, Louis Vierne, that died in the middle of his recital in Notre-Dame. He had a heart attack and fell on the low E pedal note, dying as this single low note echoed throughout the church. If you need any more proof that organists are hardcore, this is it.
  • @sparkyfox7956
    “Oh, I play the piano, what do you play?” “The church”
  • @oskeewootwoot
    As a brass musician who has spent most of my life playing in brass bands, there's NOTHING in the world like a brass band and organ playing together. Brass bands are already capable of playing incredibly loud, and then you add in the organ...it's immense. I absolutely love it.
  • @philclip23
    Something else that adds to the mystique surrounding organists is the fact that on many occasions, they are out of our line of sight during their performances. The visual component of performing for an audience is present the vast majority of instruments, but not for the organ. Sound is supreme.
  • @mac397
    As an organist, I found it very entertaining when he lost his mind trying to explain how an organ works. Let me say it gets even more complicated when you try to understand the mechanics to it.
  • my s/o has an organ built into his house. it's a perfectly normal house, not a mansion or anything, and then boom... pipe organ. i have struggled to think of a bigger flex.
  • @Jawesome1Shazam
    This brings me back to my undergrad in my music history class when I wrote a paper on the history of pipe organ construction and called "The Art of Laying Pipe; A History of Pipe Organ Construction" and somehow I got an A and 0 reaction from the professor over the title.
  • @jackalope839
    Organist are the horse people of the musical world. That isn't a instrument, that's a lifestyle choice.
  • @rajasitorus8556
    Organist: I play an orchestra People: Did you mean, you play in an orchestra? Organist: Nope. I play an orchestra
  • @IvanZivko
    As a self-taught organist, I can say this: if you imagine a pipe organ to sound scary, then it does sound scary. If you imagine it to sound beautiful, then it does sound beautiful.
  • Forte is such an underrated Disney villain. I kinda sympathize with him. Treated like dirt as a human, when he seemed like a nice guy...gets stuck against a wall for years while most others can move around (kind of a jail cell, really), as part of his "Master's" punishment...still tries to be a good friend for a long time. Forte is a prodigy, and once he felt stripped of his dreams, he totally lost it and his sorrow turned into madness. Because his ideals were twisted or naive (he thought for the castle folk staying in that form was fine, while in reality the curse in the end would've turned them into what they had become, but without a soul), he's a faithful representation of the dark side of those personalities. I commend Beast for mourning him after his death, showing the deserved pity and sensitivity.