When did Gandalf know Bilbo had The One Ring? | Tolkien Explained
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All Comments (21)
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What other questions about Middle-earth would you like to see me tackle on the channel? (And yeah, I couldn't resist making this thumbnail inspired by the Riddler meme. haha)
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"The language is that of Mordor, which I will not utter here... I'll wait till we're in Rivendell. It'll freak Elrond out; just wait till you see his face."
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Bilbo's decision to leave the One Ring to Frodo sets him apart as a truly unique character in the story. No one else in the tale has the foresight and selflessness to willingly give up the ring, knowing the immense power and temptation it holds. He is truly a one-of-a-kind hero.
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Christopher Lee and Ian McKellen are two of the greatest casting decisions in cinematic history.
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My favorite scene in the film trilogy is when Gandalf is talking with Frodo in Moria. "Many that live deserve death. Some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them, Frodo? Do not be so quick to deal out death and judgement. Even the very Wise cannot see all ends."
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Short answer: Gandalf assumed Bilbo had a lesser ring until the events of LOTR. But wow! That is a lot of context you packed into one video, great job!
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Always thought it was funny in the movies that if Gandalf had been wrong about the ring he would have given Frodo a horrible burn on his palm when he took it straight out of the fire.
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I always thought Bilbo never gets enough credit for being the only being in this story able to give up the one ring on his own especially with how long and how much he had used it.
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I love the way it's shot throughout the film because it looks like Gandalf just casually hopped on horseback and popped over to Minas Tirith from the shire in like, a few days or so but coming from the books, we known it's been nearly 20 years since he had the suspicion that Bilbo's ring was sus. And in the meantime did a bunch of things within that timeframe to confirm his suspicions.
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So let me get this straight. In the Hobbit, Tolkien wrote a magic ring into the story as a way for Bilbo to get out of a tough spot. Then he went back, took that ring, and made it the central plot point of the entire saga? That's cool.
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You said that it wasn't mentioned in the films that there were lesser rings made, but Gandalf has a line like "There are many magic rings in this world, Bilbo Baggins, and none of them should be used lightly." I always assumed that to mean rings that weren't one of the great rings.
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The Bilbo's love of food and a quiet life overpowered the ring.
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Gandalf's love of the halflings leaf clearly slowed his mind...💚
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7:55 "Most men couldnt even finish their breakfast under the influence of the Ring before setting out to conquer the world" - CP Gray
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Alright, you convinced me. I'll rewatch the movies today with this context in mind.
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For the movie at least, I knew that Gandalf knew when he told Bilbo, "You haven't aged a day." I'll never forget the look on his face and how all of the joy just seemed to drain from it. He then quickly laughed it off, but his mind was set. He only needed to get the proof to confirm what he knew.
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I can't imagine how dumb Gandalf must have felt when he discovered the truth. I would punch myself mentally for not realizing that the most dangerous thing in the entire world has been under my nose all this time.
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"The love of the halfling's leaf has definitely slowed your mind.". LMAO - Saruman with the clap at Gandalf in the movie.
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Well Gandalf did say in fellowship to Bilbo "there are many magic rings and none of them should be used lightly" which did make me think at the time how many total there are 🤔 But makes sense to me, if the greatest evil object in the world in in possession of his friend he wanted to make ABSOLUTELY certain that it was the one Just glad he found out in the end 😂
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I think that just as the ring had a negative affect on whoever possessed it, that it could influence someone like Gandalf to pay less attention to it. The ring wants to be found and get back to it's master, but it doesn't want the wrong person to find it. Gandalf or Galadriel would have become rivals to Sauron's power if they were to take the ring, and that is not something the ring wants.
