Audiences Hate Bad Writing, Not Strong Women
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Publicado 2023-07-15
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Stop watching this video already.
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As a woman, it doesn’t feel empowering or inspiring. It feels patronizing and pitying. They need to stop doing this
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"Don't make a great female character, make a great character that happens to be female" -some wise person
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"Ya'll hate on Rey just because she's a strong woman" Meanwhile Ahsoka, Leia and Padme are some of the most beloved and iconic characters in Star Wars history
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We have Ripley from Aliens franchise being this strong and powerful women. We don't complain about it. Why? Because the writing is so good
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The worst part is when they get called out for bad writing they pull the sexism card to cope for their lack of skill
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I think the irony of the "sexism" card is that they are ultimately defending writers not respecting women enough to put real effort into their characters and arcs
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A better comparison scene for the bullying is Harry Potter. His mistreatment at the hands of the Dursleys is explained very quickly – they value normalcy, which Harry is decidedly not. He is bullied by his relatives and, as a result of their deception, pretty much everyone around him considers him the problem and so they mistreat him too. Not only is the treatment given a reasoning, we later find out the reasoning is nuanced and find out even later just how much deeper it went than we were initially led to believe… to the point that there were scenes relating to the mistreatment that were actually impactful and surprising all the way until the final movie/book. It goes even further in that it was a narrow reflection of a broader issue in the world at large. On that broader scale it was a large factor in Grindelwald’s motives which ultimately led to WW2. What seemed like a simple thing was actually a major plot point… whereas RoP? “Please like our Mary Sue because she endured some inexplicable childish bullying”
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The problem I have with a lot of these characters is, that they are just so unlikable. They are annyoing, arogant, narcistic, all traits that you rather see in villian - because they make a character unlikeable. The writers use the traits they see in "toxic masculinity", but somehow think that a strong character has to have them in order to be strong, thereby completely sabotaging their own agenda.
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“Write characters to tell a story not prove a point” Great line!
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good ol' hollywood thinking that a strong woman needs to be more like a man, instead of making a real character EDIT: This comment was written at like 2 am in a few seconds, and I have notifs muted so I didn't see all the replies. To clear up confusion, I do mean man as specifically the self absorbed toxic masculine stereotype that is still common in media. A blending of traditional femininity and masculinity is needed for a truly good male or female character, and no gender is bound to a single set of values or way of life.
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I like how the Entire Message of Mulan that men and women are different but still strong in different ways, BUT that when brought together and working with each other, relying on each others strengths thats when you can do anything.
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Edge of Tomorrow is one of my favorite movies of all time, but has gone very overlooked. Thanks for giving it and it’s amazing characters the love they deserve!
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A man named Clifton Duncan once said; "Audiences don't hate diverse characters. What they hate is being slammed as bigots for rejecting bad work from pretentious, unskilled activists posing as writers. If the demography of your characters becomes more important than the story, your story will probably suck."
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Remember folks: the gender of the character does not matter, as long as it is good writing.
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Mulan vs Mulan is an amazing study in how to do a character right vs terribly. I'm kinda glad the live action exists purely for the clear juxtaposition.
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This video is such a breath of fresh air, it's a well-informed and good faith critique of a very real problem that exists in female character writing that doesn't just spiral into genuinely misogynistic ramblings like 90% of "anti-woke" clickbait youtubers. This is exactly the kind of content we need.
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I like how no one hated Gamora... Despite she being the 2nd strongest Physically and strongest In Overall Combat.... Because she was written perfectly in the guardians of the galaxy franchise..
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As a girl I have always thought that those movies failed because of sexism, not in the sense that audiences didn't like it, but in the sense of not creating new characters, just female versions, not creating complex characters, just make them perfect. It's like 'a woman has to be perfect' 'a woman is superficial ' 'a woman is not worth the effort of writing a good characters' and 'women are so dumb that this is all it takes to sell a movie'
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This is true for all characters no one wants a perfect flawless character.