Which Sims Game Has the Toughest Economy?

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Published 2023-10-13
Hello! In this video, I’m indulging the feminine urge to turn any topic into a complaint about capitalism. It’s a lot of numbers and a bit of a downer. I’ve linked all data sources below and EA - if you’re out there - I just wanna talk.

Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
0:25 - Wages
6:31 - Wages vs. Cost of Living
18:07 - Toughest Economy Results
18:36 - Sims vs. Reality
24:29 - Most Realistic Economy Results
25:38 - Thoughts on Gameplay


Data Sources

UAW Median Worker vs. CEO Pay:
www.npr.org/2023/09/13/1198938942/high-ceo-pay-ine…

Median Home Price:
www.bankrate.com/real-estate/median-home-price/#ho…

Top 1% Threshold By State:
www.cnbc.com/2023/07/18/how-much-you-need-to-earn-….

BLS Data:
CPI - www.bls.gov/cpi/
Productivity - www.bls.gov/productivity/
Utilities - beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/CXUUTILSLB…
Food - beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/CXUFOODTOT…
Entertainment - beta.bls.gov/dataViewer/view/timeseries/CXUENTRTAI…
Healthcare - www.bls.gov/opub/btn/volume-9/how-have-healthcare-…

U.S. Census Bureau Data:
Median Household Income - www.census.gov/library/publications/2023/demo/p60-…
Median Personal Income (via Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis) -
fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N

Childcare Data:
Dept. of Labor, Women’s Bureau - www.dol.gov/sites/dolgov/files/WB/NDCP/508_WB_Issu…
Brookings/Hamilton Project - www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Child…


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All Comments (21)
  • @ofanichan
    Cant believe im sitting here watching math
  • @emilwandel
    the most unrealistic thing is finding a job after one application. and getting promoted so often and getting a bonus for promotion. I get bonus work.
  • @dinealone0
    girl you got me DEAD “CEOs… upper management, lower management, and then the people who do all the work.” LMFAO
  • One thing a lot of people aren't aware of is that Sims 4 bills also account for storage. The crops stored in your fridge, the flowers stored in your Flower Arranging Table, the collectables stored in chests and boxes, and even portable items in your Sim's inventory. It calculates bills based on everything you own. If you have the 15K violin in your pockets, it counts toward your bills. This is all added into property taxes.
  • As a kid, I distinctly remember showing my parents the sims 1 (with a fake family on a fake lot that wasn't covered in ash piles and urns) and them saying "Your sim makes 200 dollars IN A DAY at their job? Wow, that's a ton! But wait, FORTY DOLLARS FOR A SINGLE PIZZA!? What the heck is with this economy!?" 2001 times were wild, bruh
  • @LivelyPaint
    The Sims 4 suffering from low wages and high cost of living is hilariously real
  • @Tissaisme
    My first sim lived on his couch, had no lights or windows, and every day when he got home from work he’d cry because he had no fun, so I’d buy him a basket ball hoop, let him play until he was less miserable, then sold it so he could afford food. Then lather, rinse repeat. So pretty accurate to today’s standards 😅
  • @ecstaticryan4369
    I personally think the sims 2 is the hardest to climb the economic ladder. Their needs go down much faster than the sims 3 and 4 and your sims will straight up refuse to do anything if their needs aren’t taken care of. That and you actually have to buy groceries and clothes unlike the newer sims games.
  • @visttia
    I'm really surprised, because I always found sims 4 too easy and that's why I got bored quickly. It's just way too easy to progress in the career, once you get used to this game. The only thing I really enjoy is the university in sims 4 because it's really challenging. Also, just a sidenote, I really hate that you can see the neighbourhoods from other packs even if you don't have them. That's such a dirty tactic to make people buy the packs :/
  • @davidkonevky7372
    I personally prefer sims 3 since it's economically challenging enough but also there's also a bunch of things you can spend your money on even when you get rich. Mainly real estate and expensive items like cars
  • @bonnieinlove
    The socioeconomist in me had been hoping someone would make a Sims video like this for ages, thank you sm 😭❤
  • @JFairy189
    It's interesting how the wage and cost of living mirrors the progress across the first three games. You can practically see the inflation in the Sims universe from TS3 (canonically the oldest) to TS2 (set 25 years after TS1).
  • @alexdh2001
    im very surprised the sims 4 came out as the most challenging. its the sims game i've played the most and i have the easiest time getting out of the beginning poverty stage over the sims 3 or 2. maybe it's due to how much money you get from promotion bonuses and selling career rewards, plus getting gifts in the mail when your kids age up and stuff. it feels like the game throws money at you
  • I don't think sims 4 is more economically challenging since there are other ways to make money besides having a career. I find it really easy to make money in the sims 4 if you dont take the career route or do a combination of career and make money with other means like painting, selling books etc.
  • Sims 4 is really too easy to make money, even just doing careers. The daily task is just a suggestion, as you can very easily get promoted without doing it. By just selecting the "socialize with co-workers" option while at work, you can easily get the promotion. They made it even easier by getting rid of the "ideal mood" requirement that the game used to suggest for the Sim to have at work, when the game first came out. I can get from level 1 to level 3 in about 7 working days. I do know that sims 4 has become a micromanagement simulator instead of the life sim it is marketed to be.
  • @jungtothehuimang
    I honestly love how technical this is. This is the kind of thing I think about but wouldn't ever try to figure out myself.
  • @ChrisPyre
    I’d love to see a comparison to the US data at the time of release or perhaps at the peak of each generations life span. Sims 1 came out in 2000. That was such a different landscape financiallyZ
  • @luckyjupiter9745
    This video is so well made! Hope the algorithm picks this up and a lot of people see it :)
  • @aineheckenshrek
    I think I learned more from this 40-minute video about The Sims than I ever did in the American Public School System thank you
  • @maggielareau7428
    This is an awesome video! In The Sims 3 Ambitions, there's a feature similar to your concept of a "Craigslist" section of buy mode. If you send your Sims to the junkyard lot, they can find a rotating selection of random, damaged buy mode items (toilets, sinks, cribs) that they can salvage for free and then repair (though I think this requires handiness skill). Additionally, the billing rate in TS3 is 1.3% of your total furnished lot value, which you can see in the upper left corner of the screen when you're in build or buy mode!