Rise of Red Isn't That Bad

my sister put it into words perfectly, the way this movie ended, without a castlecoming scene, or reveal that ella was the one who did the prank, it's like if in coco, Miguel went to the underworld, and the movie played out exactly the same except he finds ernesto de la Cruz, it's actually his great great grandfather, and he gives him his blessing, and that's it, hector is not relevant to the plot at all, no lessons learned whatsoever. it's what it felt like, being robbed of a final act that just brings the whole thing together

The tribute to Cameron Boyce definitely got to me

As a person who also has PTSD, I just want to express that you are not alone. You are not wrong for taking time to work on yourself and get your mind in a good place. I'm proud of both of you doing what is best for you and your health

I'm just going to say one of the few gripes I had about the plot is the boobytrap in the book. Because if the villains got the book then to make the cupcake and opened it like planned, they still would have been frozen even in the past. The only way it wouldn't have is if they convinced either Cinderella or Bridget to do it themselves which based on what we know, sounds like it didn't happen because they would still need to make the cupcake and if you have the book, you can read what the cupcake does and if it was Bridget or Cinderella, they wouldn't have baked that cupcake. I just feel that part is a major plothole

THANK YOU! It wasn’t that bad. In fact for a Disney channel movie the effects and production was really good. I was so flooded with nostalgia seeing Brandy and Pablo return as Prince Henri/charming and Cinderella

I felt like there was an entire third arc that was completely cut, and that made the ending abrupt and off-putting from what they just went through. Would have loved to see the twist of Ella being the one to prank her or at least see the castlecoming scene before being shunted back to the future

I miss ever after high :c

17:45 After Uliana falls into the fountain, we see Fay and Charming with a girl with multi-colored hair. Her name in the credits is Meadow, but when the cast was initially revealed, she was called Zellie, and was intended to be the teenage Rapunzel. At some point, this idea was dropped, and she was changed, but Rapunzel was originally going to be in the movie.

Honestly, I thought after they got the cookbook, they would go to the dance to make sure nothing happens to Bridget but something does happen, and it turns out the v kids weren't the ones who pranked her. The prank would have had more of an impact if it was someone she thought she could trust, like maybe Cinderella. Also, why are they called the V Kids? It made sense in the first three movies but in this one, the v kids are the parents. Does that mean it stands for villainous kids and not kids of villains?

i liked the fact that they used the same actors for cinderella and the prince as in the rodgers and hammerstein's movie :D the carlos bit made me a little emotional 🥲

Rapunzel was an background character in this movie she had rainbow hair

Oh, dear. I'm very sorry this happened to your partner. I hope everything will go well when you two are moving and that she'll eventually find a new job and slowly start to heal over time ❤

8:06 Mads: "It takes you to the moment in time that could give you what your heart wants most." Quote from the Movie at 9min46sec

12:36 THIS. I swear I could see the laces in every scene with every character 😭

Isn't the number one lesson in time travel plot to NOT influence it? The red queen did a complete 180 on her personality. Wouldn't this influence the exclusion of wonderland in the first place and red probably never been born. Imagine how the mass execution done by the queen would change wonderland Oh my God, imagine how dark it would be if red would be considering sacrificing her own existence to save probably half of wonderland population. Also, those are all fairytale characters, so they could also try a plot where red tries to help her mom but everytime something else happens that causes her to snap. The "you can't change the past, but you have to fight for the present" kind of moral

Mad hatter's son explained to Red that the clock goes back to the moment one's heart most desires. Thats why they ended in that moment of the past.

the thing about both being a queen and empress is not smth that special. there are many kings that were also dukes and a lot of emperors (i know mainly about the HRE) that were also kings, so yeah

Aw, damn. I had forgotten about Cameron Boyce. That's a really sweet scene.

It was going well, I thought having Wonderland locked up like the Isle was cool, Though the original heroes and villains all going to school together shows that Disney is trying to separate Descendants from the original stories and I thought the ending was going to be different as well, like Cinderella didn't get to go because she got grounded (also, Ella and charming falling in love at a different dance and not the ball, proves my point I made about the separation), I did get Red because I like that song and Uma, the rest were not as good

Also canonically in the Disney verse Zeus aged himself down to go to school with young Hercules in the TV show. He could completely be doing that right now too