The Alpha Legion Is Overpowered - So Why Are They So Useless? | Warhammer 40k Lore

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I liked that their father figure was not the emperor, but Malcador. Hence, all the mind games and bullshittery that come along with it

The best way to describe aplha legion is how orks describe their god: Alpharius is traitor but loyal Omegon is loyal but traitor

Omegon honestly has a pretty sad story. its clear in the Alpharius book that they aren't just twins, they are very much apart of each other with Alpharius feeling something within him was missing until he found Omegon. So to not only deceive and work against Alpharius, but to play a considerable part in his death, would have been monumentally difficult. And after his death, Omegon was essentially alone. The loyalist primarchs considered him a tratior and monster, the traitor primarchs he secretly opposed and stood against (if traitor primarchs were even capable of working together or feeling any sense of kinship) and the vast majority of his legion had embraced chaos due to the misguided actions of Alpharius. All he can do now is work with his remaining loyalist sons to undermine the traitor legions (and kill his other sons along the way.) There doesn't seem to be any light at the end of the tunnel for Omegon, at least without Games Workshop devoting some serious time to his and Alpha Legion's story. He made the right decisions and lost everything regardless.

How each pre-heresy primarch would react to the current imperium when placed in Gullimans shoes would be a cool video idea

Majorkill: "Do you seriously believe your own hype that much?" Alpha Legion: "WE ARE THE HYPE!"

1:22 The Spear of Alpharius is believed to be a Necron weapon that can easily shear molecules apart.

A good example of their effectiveness was when the entire dark angels chapter went to vraks, they got ambushed and lost 200 marines within less than an hour and the alpha legion had disappeared before the dark angels could counter attack

I'd imagine that one of the main reasons that the Alpha Legion seems to be so useless is that GW painted themselves into a corner with them - kind of like what they're finding themselves roped into with the Lion, who is supposed to be an absolute beast of a man, strategist of super-human intelligence... and now they have to grapple with him doing unbelievably stupid things during the Horus Heresy. (leaving 30k Astartes out of the combat, being tricked by Perturabo, etc.) The Alpha Legion are masters of infiltration and plans within plans within plans. They're essentially the Astartes version of the Emperor, where everything is going Just As Planned, no matter how insane it looks. And that's incredibly hard to use because it is so easy to come across as lazy deus ex Alpha Legion rather than a carefully crafted plot. So you have to tell it from the Alpha Legion PoV just to make what happens believable to the reader, rather than just "And then... Alpha Legion.". (this is what is making the Lion story so good - we're seeing it from HIS perspective, and so it doesn't come down to "And then... the Lion appears.", and we get to see him work through things in his mind, so we understand where he's coming from.)

Shroud of Night is a criminally underrated novel and its a serious shame the Alpha Legion doesnt get more love beyond the heresy.

Fun fact: Alpharius and Omegon actually swapped places shortly after Omegon was found, and swapped names as well to maintain the illusion. Omegon was the cocky one who thought he knew the will of the Emperor better than his father. It adds to the tragedy quite nicely I think. Alpharius' brother slain by Dorn, with none of the primarch ever having truly gotten to meet him.

Personally I like to brlieve that none of them besides Omegon really knows for sure whose sides they are supposed to be on and are too embarrassed to ask, so they go around doing whatever the plot demans of them and hopping that it wil all make sense in the end. Meanwhile Omegon assumes that everyone actually knows wtf they are doing so he just lets them do whatever

It always struck me that Alpha Legion and Dark Angels were originally supposed to be identically comparable, First and Last, one entirely focused on combat, the other entirely on information, both with half their legion serving the other side. The fact that this isn’t how things panned out may be an example of loyalist favoritism is writing unfortunately.

Omegon (Alpharius) is one of the coolest characters in 40k. Hope he turns up in some form sooner rather than later.

Omegon posing as a Fallen to join up with The Lion would be a sick twist and possibly allow the two primarchs to talk. Omegon would return, but not immediately blow his cover as loyalist while letting him to loyalist stuff in a new way.

Just my theory, but what if Omegon smuggled the true plans to Constatin Valdor, and thats how he's managed to create a massive army without the Emperor or Malcador.

Imagine the Lion & Guilliman are chatting about Alpha Legion shenanigans and the Lion goes “These actions do not seem at second glance to be malicious in nature. There seems to be a secondary effect which is more prominent than the initial action. What is our little brother up to…”

Its crazy how ineffective they are, considering when you look at Alpha Legion they give "fck around and find out" vibes

You forgot that when Alpharius found Omegon, they swapped names. So Omegon (Alpharius) is still alive while Alpharius (Omegon) is the one that died.

Alpha legion discussion! Thanks for highlighting them. I wish they were more active in the lore since they are underrrated. They are most intriguing to me right now.