Should You ACTUALLY Use Bipod instead of Bait and Switch?

Most of the numbers should be pretty accurate here! I did whiff some Izi shots in a few B&S rotations. So that added damage would only prove that B&S is more favorable. I still highly recommend having both of these ready to go if you can manage it tho! Edit: I also made a mistake and said you need '15' finder bricks at the end for max ammo when using bipod. Meant to say '5' finder bricks. (That gives 15 rockets which would fill up a full reserve of 14)

I switched to bipod because 4 rockets gives me more dopamine than 2

No sniper rotations for Bipod? Something like a BnS Supremacy would be perfect to slot in as a DPS option while Reconstruction is doing its thing, or even a Lucky Pants Malf. Anything that rewards you for staying on it for just enough time for Reconstruction to reload all four shots. Just seems a little silly to put up Izzy + GL numbers for BnS but no such swapping for Bipod to make the comparison. You mentioned how once a Bipod rocket shoots all of its shots, you’re back to only shooting a special weapon and the “damage will drop off considerably.” Why include the special ammo damage from Izzy and GL for BnS then? Imagine adding ~8 more seconds of special ammo damage to the Bipod roll to compare against Izzy + GL. 8 seconds of a BnS Supremacy closes the gap considerably, and you’d probably even get a little more time compared to the spamming rotation because you aren’t spending time to reload. I ran BnS Supremacy/Bipod Apex in Kingsfall the other day and compared to a buddy doing honed Izzy shots and a Cold Comfort, I ended up dealing about 20% more damage on Oryx (which, given Supremacy’s total damage being around 20-25% higher than Izzy’s and Bipod being slightly worse than BnS, it made sense).

My entire thought process on the Bipod vs. Bait-and-Switch argument is simple. Bipod for casual fuckery or low effort farm, and Bait-and-Switch for Boss Bakes, Master Content, Day 1's, and Endgame Min-Max Setups. Perks don't have to be built for EVERYTHING in the game, somethings are just going to be better in one area the others, no need think any further in my opinion. But I'm a Titan Main, so what do I know?

I feel like bipod isn’t really being best illustrated here as for most swap loadouts with B&S the supplenental dps weapons like Izi are using all their ammo by the time you run out of rockets whereas with bipod spamming you’re essentially using none. How does bipod stack up when factoring in supplemental damage in longer dps phases? I imagine it closes the gap and is still way easier to execute.

Yall slept on it until my Cold Comfort with Restoration Ritual and Bipod can shoot 4 rockets in 2 seconds also unless you can somehow optimize the Hive Sword for better damage, I dont think its gonna matter day 1

I feel like Bipod will be better for short damage phases like the Explicator on the planets encounter in RoN. I noticed that B&S for that encounter takes too long to proc and make good use of since the DPS phases are too short between immunity phases. Bipod would be perfect to just dump rockets instead of proccing B&S, then firing, especially when the first rocket doesn't get B&S.

Thanks for the vid man amazing work on the dps testing

great video, well explained, thanks for the hard work

perfect vid I was literally looking for a vid answering this question earlier

Super insightful video! One thing I will say though. With double finder mods/double reserves/one solar scavenger I seem to be getting 4 rockets from finder bricks and 6 from normal heavy bricks, so I don't think the ammo economy is too horrendous

Very well made, exactly what I was looking for

Bipod seems like strong filler damage, like waiting for double slugs to reload or for lucky pants to reproc

Good point on the ammo economy, seems like a rough tradeoff to not pick up any extra ammo even though you've traded weaker rockets for higher reserves

Idea for Crota specifically (assuming his 2 DPS phases still last 5 seconds): x4 Izanagi’s (don’t reload) then 4 apex rockets (reload 2, reconstruction puts in a 3rd) then reload a x4 Izi while the 4th Apex rocket loads via Reconstruction I did the math on pickups and you can have 8 rockets per phase for 4 phases if you rally with max reserves and pickup 6 per phase (assuming your team is running scouts and maybe a cenotaph this should be no problem with scavs)

I say spam 4 rockets (w bipod obv), go to town with Merciless, then spam however many more rockets as you can before the damage phase ends. Merciless is crazy good and consistent damage, plus both are solar 😉

Perfect timing. Was going to make the new strand rocket with field prep and bipod.

I think a good compromise for the B+S swap rotations would be Izi, Fusion, and B+S. Probably a bit less overall damage/DPS and than Izi, GL, B+S but when you run out of Izi ammo you’ll still be able to use reconstruction to reload the rocket and shoot the fusion in the downtime. Could also use Supremacy with Kinetic Tremors or another good roll so you can maintain ammo longer for the B+S rotation. The main weakness I see with the Izi, GL, B+S rotation is that Izi runs out of ammo very quickly and leaves you unable to proc B+S any further. Is it worth it to just manually reload the rocket once you’re out of Izi to get as many B+S rockets as possible?

The new strand seasonal rocket with enhanced field prep and bipod is amazing imo. I'd like to see some breakdowns of it if possible.

i think a really good set up would be with malfesance and lucky pants, a cascade point shotgun and bipod enhanced reconstruction, i havent been lucky enough to get the ed borders to make my own apex but id love to see someone test it out