Peter Zeihan on the Collapse of Globalization and Shifts in Global Power Dynamics | Technovation 887

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Published 2024-07-08
Peter Zeihan, renowned geopolitical strategist and founder of Zeihan on Geopolitics, wrote in his most recent book, "the seeds of deglobalization were sown decades ago." Since then, the world has seen both demographic and economic shifts that further validate his analysis. In this episode, Peter High interviews Peter Zeihan about his deep insights on topics intersecting demography, economics, energy, politics, technology, and security. The conversation delves into Zeihan's perspectives on Stalin's influence on the global order, the early indicators of deglobalization, and the demographic challenges leading to economic declines. Zeihan provides an in-depth look at the geopolitical futures of major powers like China, Russia, and the United States. He explains the mechanisms driving historic trends, the ongoing conflict with Ukraine, and what might be expected on the world stage in the coming years. Pivoting more locally, Zeihan discusses his predictions for the 2024 US Presidential elections, what each candidate’s win might mean for America’s role on the world stage, and what needs to happen for the US to keep pace with the shifting trends toward deglobalization. Finally, Zeihan gives his thoughts on which other countries might come out on top in the coming years once the dust settles.

*This interview was recorded on June 20th, 2024 prior to the first Presidential Debate.*

00:00 Introduction to Technovation
00:51 Stalin's Influence on Global Order
02:03 The Seeds of Deglobalization
04:08 China's Demographic and Economic Crisis
17:30 India's Prospects and Challenges
20:57 Russia's Geopolitical Strategy and Ukraine Conflict
31:01 Nuclear Risks with China and Russia
31:31 Corruption in Chinese Military
32:48 US Missile Defense Limitations
33:19 Debate on US Response to Russian Aggression
34:32 Ukraine's Use of US Weapon Systems
35:50 Potential Conflict Over Taiwan
37:50 Impact of Deglobalization on the US
39:20 2024 US Presidential Election Predictions
47:22 Immigration's Role in US Demographics
50:28 Countries with Positive Long-Term Prospects
53:44 Challenges and Opportunities for the UK
55:48 Future Global Economic Models
56:38 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

An audio-only version of this interview is available as episode 887 of Metis Strategy’s podcast, #Technovation with Peter High. Learn more at bit.ly/Technovation-887.

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All Comments (21)
  • @MetisStrategy
    We apologize for any confusion. It is important to note that this interview was pre-recorded on June 20th, 2024.
  • @burnettis1
    Peter is great, wonderful. But, I have not heard him say anything new, in a lonnnnnng time! 🇮🇪🎊🎉🤣
  • @tonywilson4713
    There's a serious question of WHEN DID THIS INTERVIEW HAPPEN. Anyone who watches Peter's channel regularly knows that the background in this interview is from his house in Colorado and anyone who watched his channel knows he is currently in Italy not Colorado. Also if you take a quick look at his beard and compare it to any of the thumbnails you'll see that his beard is much longer now than in this interview. If you do go to Peters channel and scroll down. The last time Peter posted from his house with that background was about 5 months ago and at that time his beard was a trimmed. Now that does not mean anything other than its unlikely this interview was done in the last few days. When it was actually conducted is up to the host of this channel to tell us.
  • @holtcrowder
    This was obviously recorded a while back. Love Peters commentary, even when he gets it wrong , which is usually surrounding US politics. He is a self admittedly a leftist. Therefore he his political bias shines through. Leftist cannot help themselves when they are dealing with TDS. However I totally enjoy his commentary regardless. I have learned to filter his bias and glean insight post bias filtering. Good job Peter.
  • @jimparker880
    Whether or not PZ is right on all of his points, his real genius, imo, is in getting us to think about these issues.
  • @roblangsdorf8758
    The correct name for the inflation act should have been "the inflation PRODUCTION act". Atleast in the short-term. Long-term some of it may produce retooling that could help our economy. But our long-term debt may bring us down before then.
  • @socket_error1000
    The issue with the Russian nuclear threat is that the weapons and their delivery systems are neglected. Russia has just not allocated the funds needed to maintain and keep their nuclear weapons operational. And with what little may have been directed for that, much of it would have been prime for embezzlement by the top brass who would see those systems as doomsday options at any rate. Russia has not modernized their delivery systems or updated their warhead electronics, targeting, or guidance and maneuvering systems. They are using 32+ year old weapons that have had zero maintenance or modernization. Even the USA has been scrambling to keep their missile delivery systems operational after rebuilding the minuteman missiles in the silos twice and they allocate $63 billion a year to maintain their nuclear weapons. Keep in mind that is as much as Russia has been spending on Defense for an entire year prior to the Russo/Ukraine war.
  • @noahway13
    The most intelligent questions I have heard in a long time. Good show.
  • @fkxfkx
    By now, those antique fireworks are not likely to even make it out of their silos.
  • @sephiroth6839
    Peter is great for geography, demographics and industrial inputs. Trump breaks his mind.
  • @kennethhill4623
    The more I hear Zeihan the more it seems hes just saying the things the people who pay for his advice want to hear.
  • @scottpi729
    He's calling for a Biden Landslide. So . . . he's an idiot?
  • @charleswomack2166
    I wanted to commend you on an excellent video. Your questions are brilliant, and I really liked the timestamps. The summary of the video was superb. A bit longer than most, but since it was so well written, it's a good thing. Subscribed
  • @Xius_WoW
    See peter zeihan interview, watch peter zeihan interview. Never skip!
  • @matthewkeith8605
    I’m no longer quite so sure about a Biden landslide! ;) Peter is very good on concrete specifics like demographics, food and energy but I’m not so sure of his reasoning about people’s decisions. Example: he assumes that Trump being a “convicted felon” makes him look worse, as opposed to making the Democrats look corrupt and like. S.American dictatorship.
  • @RubenCLeon
    How many Chinese landing craft could avoid "smart" weapons? How many Chinese paratroopers could avoid "smart" weapons? How long could a Chinese military venture last, once the Mideast oil is cut off through the strait of Malacca? The US probably won't risk their carriers, but the US could deploy a dozen or more subs to close the Taiwan strait.
  • @ForAndroid101
    "Adults aren't stupid." What reality does this guy live in??? Clearly not the same one I live in...or that George Carlin lived in.