Alex Garland: Ex Machina, Devs, Annihilation, and the Poetry of Science | Lex Fridman Podcast #77

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Published 2020-03-03
Alex Garland, writer and director of many imaginative and philosophical films from the dreamlike exploration of human self-destruction in the movie Annihilation to the deep questions of consciousness and intelligence raised in the movie Ex Machina, which to me is one of the greatest movies on artificial intelligence ever made. I'm releasing this podcast to coincide with the release of his new series called Devs that will premiere this Thursday, March 5, on Hulu as part of "FX on Hulu". It explores many of the themes this very podcast is about: from quantum mechanics to artificial life to simulation to the modern nature of power in the tech world.

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EPISODE LINKS:
Devs: hulu.tv/2x35HaH
Devs Twitter: twitter.com/Devs_FXonHulu
Annihilation: hulu.tv/3ai9Eqk
Ex Machina: www.netflix.com/title/80023689
Alex IMDb: www.imdb.com/name/nm0307497/
Alex Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Garland

OUTLINE:
0:00 - Introduction
3:42 - Are we living in a dream?
7:15 - Aliens
12:34 - Science fiction: imagination becoming reality
17:29 - Artificial intelligence
22:40 - The new "Devs" series and the veneer of virtue in Silicon Valley
31:50 - Ex Machina and 2001: A Space Odyssey
44:58 - Lone genius
49:34 - Drawing inpiration from Elon Musk
51:24 - Space travel
54:03 - Free will
57:35 - Devs and the poetry of science
1:06:38 - What will you be remembered for?

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All Comments (21)
  • @lexfridman
    I really enjoyed this conversation with Alex. Here's the outline: 0:00 - Introduction 3:42 - Are we living in a dream? 7:15 - Aliens 12:34 - Science fiction: imagination becoming reality 17:29 - Artificial intelligence 22:40 - The new "Devs" series and the veneer of virtue in Silicon Valley 31:50 - Ex Machina and 2001: A Space Odyssey 44:58 - Lone genius 49:34 - Drawing inpiration from Elon Musk 51:24 - Space travel 54:03 - Free will 57:35 - Devs and the poetry of science 1:06:38 - What will you be remembered for?
  • @filipsiroky4439
    I saw Ex Machina 5 years ago shortly before sending applications for university programs. If I didn't see it, I would not have started studying CS and AI. I did not even consider that path before but Ex Machina made me think and realize that the impact of AI can be immense. Today, I work as CERN Fellow optimizing particle accelerators with machine learning. Thank you so much for that huge inspiration that shaped my life, Alex!
  • @WarlordRising
    One of the best screenwriters of our time. Excellent director as well.
  • @hotchd1
    Just finished Devs. Masterpiece. Came back to rewatch this.
  • This podcast has stood to further my confidence in garland as a true cinematic artist in today’s environment of reboots and schlock
  • @gbramos
    Lex I’m not finished yet but I find this conversation extremely profound and honest. There is a certain amount of emotion this has provoked and I want to thank you for the time an effort you put into getting these individuals on the podcast.
  • @simonegreco4620
    Devs is one of the most beautiful things i've ever seen, please keep going with it
  • I'm a Home Hospice nurse and drive around each day listening to you as my current primary influencer. Thanks again Doctor.
  • @chrisconnor8086
    alex has created some of my favorite works of art and is a true genius
  • I'm hooked on Alex Garland work...and DEVS was simply amazing and the way he makes his work look and the soundtracks are fantastic..Thanks so much for this interview...
  • @descending524
    One of the best director interviews I've ever seen, big love for Mr. Garland
  • @LeonTh3Duke
    Kicking myself for only stumblng upon this interview now. Garland is my favorite director of this generation. Always love to hear him talk about films and just general topics on the themes/ideas in them. The questions asked here are really great.
  • @gateauxq4604
    GAH this guy is just wrecking my mind with stories that actually resonate with me. Devs continues this pacing and depth but with a pacing reminiscent of Mr Robot. His level Is amazing
  • Wow now that ive watched hundreds of hours of lex, this episode is incredibly undervalued.
  • @Marctersmantoll
    I felt alone after seeing Annihilation, because everybody - online and otherwise - were talking about the aliens motivation. If it was evil. The look in its eyes in the end. I felt like the way Alex Garland is describing his thoughts on aliens. Like it just happened on earth. Even crashlanded. No motivation at al. Just being itself, so to speak. Being and reacting. No evil plan.
  • The more I listen to Alex Garland, the more I think he is a rarity. Like Coppola. Or Kubrick. Amazing mindset.
  • @bec1681
    I remember reading The Beach years and years ago and thinking every single word was so perfectly crafted. What an incredible writer. I wish he'd write more novels. Alex Garland takes our strongest intuitions and curiosities, and levels them up intellectually and creatively in the coolest ways. An absolute God in the league of sci fi.