EAA Got Sued - AirVenture Culture Questions. Part 2

Published 2024-07-29
Yes, EAA has been properly served for their part of negligence in last year's Fun Fly Zone Fatal. This info has not reached main street media yet, but it will. The document is now public document. 2024 saw no significant effort or changes over 2024, and the fatal on day one was classic non safety culture induced. You take 10,000 private pilots and aim them all at the same destination demanding extraordinary skills and proficiency.
What do we think is going to happen?!?!

Here's a look at 2023 versus 2024.
What improvements have been made? I am just not seeing anything.
I was hoping that all fly in visitors survived, in this part 2 we see that they did not.
I will produce a part 3 after we see what efforts are being taken, if any.

This video takes a hard look at the structure and deals between EAA and FAA and asks why things are the way they are!

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All Comments (21)
  • @Fletch001
    Thanks Dan..! I think CEO Charles Cook stalking Captain Laura Savino is reprehensible. I'm sure she wants to try and forget about this creep but he should be outed as a stalker so the public knows what they are dealing with, just like a sex offender.
  • @conrad4667
    Landing all planes with the goal of zero deaths? Who’d have thought?
  • In my opinion, Jack Pelton and anyone else who fakes a degree should be jailed for fraud!
  • Be careful, Dan. These people can be dangerous. Make sure Dylan is safe & has good security. These people have NO conscience.
  • @malakov5
    As someone who flew in: 35$ per day to camp, 3 day minimum. 145$ Weekly wristband. 48$ was membership (for weekly) 2$ for water (free at certain drinking water tanks though) 4$ for any other drink. 13$ for cheapest meal on field. Last year was subways 20$ (5$ foot long) 50$ chick fil a for 2. 155$ per day for “aviators club” (AC+ breakfast and lunch and unlimited drinks and snacks from 8-6pm) 1495$ EAA lifetime membership (AC+ limited to 1 ice-cream bar and 2 tiny snacks like party size peanut m&m and one drink per visit AND THEY WILL RUN OUT OF STOCK EVERY DAY before EOD) My brother chose not to go this year because it already costs us almost 1000$ round trip in fuel. Add in camping cost, wristbands, and crazy high food cost and it’s just not worth it. It’s a real shame to be honest. That coupled with this years golf cart fiasco where after hours peoples personal vehicles are just freely allowed inside the gates where peoples airplanes and tents are. Crazy. I don’t know if I’ll go back. If I do I’ll just go to fon du lac where at least my camping fee funds the local eaa chapter there and bus in every morning. EAA seems to have lost the “experimental roots” And is now more commercial/money focused
  • Argue with an opinion; get hurt feelings.... Argue with physics; get a tombstone....
  • The wife says never again will she attend Oshkosh. Not nearly enough shower buildings in campground. The ones that are there are filthy. Prices are obscene, $32 for a cheese burger meal at the sea plane base. Like you said Dan it’s all about the money.
  • @beatlemyn
    Millibrain and Crook need to find something better to do with their time.
  • @LabGuyCFI
    Worst case if you don’t like the arrival just say your fuel pump is going out
  • @SI-lg2vp
    It is too dangerous to fly to Air Adventure is my reason to never attend. There are too many planes merging on this airport each year that results in a history of accidents that take too many lives. I would never fit in with controllers that were not only giving pilots commands, but also want to fly your airplane. The arrival rate is too dense and impact safety. thank you Dan for bringing this problem up to the attention of pilots.
  • @757MrMark
    Dan, how's the appeal coming on the phoney baloney Charles Cook?
  • @flyerbob124
    The EAA has lost some of its luster several years ago. I actually dropped my membership mostly because of how they continue to treat their attendees. Several years ago they started taking close in parking lots away from the attendees and gave them to the vendors and performers. The Orange, Gray and finally the Blue lot were all taken away from attendees who are now required to park beyond the EAA museum and hike to the museum to catch a bus to the main gate. I did not attend this year but last year I think I was parked closer to the interstate than the museum. When I emailed EAA twice about the event parking I was told in so many words that this is how it’s going to be and you can take it or leave it. I finally decided this year to drop my EAA and Warbirds membership (only had the WB because years ago you had to be a member to get into the WB area) because I own a Cessna 182, have no interest in building a airplane, have done most of the up grades I can afford and the event is really starting to look like a little Paris Airshow with the huge Boeing building and the major sponsors basically given what ever they ask for. It’s been a mostly great 30 plus years and I might go to the event again but my current feeling is EAA has lost its vision as an organization. Last thought. When I flew to EAA I went to Greenbay had a hangar, didn’t wait 1 1/2 hour for dinner and didn’t have a mental breakdown trying to land at OSH. Oh yea it was a hour drive but at the time I lived in Los Angeles and we would drive an hour for dinner.🤗
  • You are wrong about T-51 being strong. It absolutely is not. It was designed for a Rotax and now has BMW V-12 and Chevy V-8s in that same airframe. College Sophomore engineering students would counsel against that propulsion change in that airframe structure. Compare it to the Stewart S-51 and it is a black and white comparison. So very sad about John. He was a genuinely nice guy.
  • @gracelandone
    Premarital sox. Reminds me, we haven’t had Bad Dad Jokes for awhile. I’m sure Dylan misses it too. But cry me a river for people with a GAviation avocation/hobby being overcharged at the meet. I just finished Captain Sorvino’s book. I’m turning it over to my teenage daughter for inspiration. She doesn’t want to fly, but she does want to be respected. Dan M is a dick.
  • Oshkosh Airventure will surely suffer financially from these fatal crashes! Things have gotta change!
  • @JoystickTX1
    Good one Dan. Can't wait for Pt 3. I think the people at EAA have lost their minds. I can't believe those low level high bank turns to land on the dots. That may be the first time any of the pilots have done that on an approach.
  • "They weren't on the clock" Give me a break, if I go out and operate a locomotive under influence the same laws apply to me regardless of being on the clock or not.
  • @Skyhawk945
    Starting to wonder if Dan Millican and Charles Cook are romantically involved! 😮
  • Dan, As to EAA being a money grubber, I had a friend who said 25 years ago all Tom Poberenzy wanted from fly-in pilots is that they should overfly the field, roll inverted until all their money falls out of their pockets on Wittman Airport and then the lucky pilot should roll back upright and leave the area.
  • @jmwSeattle
    “When the unexpected happens are you going to have excess work load capacity. ” — Roger E. Smith, renowned Canadian test pilot