When Red Hood Made Us Question Batman's Moral Code

I like how in Injustice Jason doesn’t agree with Superman or Batman. He says he feels Superman has gone way too far but he feels Batman should loosen up his rules.

It's good that Batman doesn't want to kill anyone, but not everyone is gonna agree with Batman's motives.

Batman: I’m not going to kill Anyone, Red Hood: Fine I’ll just off these scumbags my self.

Batman: I'm not gonna kill anyone. Not even the Joker. Injustice Superman: Fine, I'll do it, myself.

Honestly his code makes a whole lot of sense in a realistic sense, like in our system a lot of the villains would get the death sentence/virtually impossible conditions to escape, but Batman can't kill because he would literally be changed from a Vigilante to another criminal that the cops need to watch more

At least what Jason said about not killing any other villain EXCEPT the Joker is 100% reasonable. If you kill someone like Black Mask or Penguin, someone within their faction will just replace them. But there isn't anyone else like Joker, even other psychotics like Zsasz. In Arkham City they knew Joker was dying, so nothing changed. But if they found out Batman straight up killed Joker, that would scare even the toughest of them to their core that the next time they get into a fight with Bats, they may not be going to prison.

The real question should be:HOW TF JOKER HAVENT GOTTEN A DEATH PENALTY BY THE COURT?

Batman: I don't kill people. I don't use guns. I don't use guns to kill people. Red Hood: Allow me to introduce myself.

Better question: how many good cops does Gotham have? Not a single cop ever said "Enough from the clown" BANG!!! blows Joker's brains out. I understand Wayne and Gordon fighting crime "by the book" but there's no way every cop shares those niceties.

You can't stop crime. That's what you never understood. I'm controlling it. You wanna rule them by fear, but what do you do with the ones who aren't afraid? That line from Batman: Under the Red Hood makes me question of whether or not there are flaws within Batman's moral code and Jason has every right to take that is more beneficial but could potentially lead a darker route for the formal Boy Wonder. This is a moral ambiguity situation when the lines of good and evil become very blur.

My main issue about Batman's morality isn't so much that he doesn't kill, his logic is sound and I respect that, it's how preachy he is about it and how he wants to enforce it on Jason even though the logic doesn't fully carry over on that front. It would make a lot more sense if the two agreed to collaborate and make compromise with one another : Red Hood holds off about killing people and let's Batman try his method of trying to rehabilitate (but truly this time, like not just throwing people in Arkham and calling it a day, like help people such as Killer Croc and Mr Freeze to get out of the loop) but then pass the relay to Jason once he knows that the villain in front of him is beyond saving. That way Batman keeps his morality and can help mitigate the potential excesses of Jason but Jason still can carry out his justice against the worst of the worst. Though we all why something like that isn't implemented and the fake conflict is kept : they want a reason to have the Joker keep coming back despite how all logic should dictate that Batman let's Jason pick at least this one

I would say that the real problem is the corruption in Gotham. Pretty sure that with all the crimes that he committed, he wouldn't just go to a prison in Gotham or to a asylum that isn't that secure

Punisher kills ppl and yet he doesn't make any meaningful change cause the writers can't allow him to kill any of the major villains.

i don't understand why the f the death sentence isn't a thing in the dc universe. the joker is doing some Saddam Husain stuff and getting into some super breakable Jail instead if the death row.

We should be asking how does joker avoid the death sentence, batman doesnt want to kill personally but im sure he'll be eating popcorn watching his switch being flipped in the electric chair

Batman: Under the Red Hood was one of the best Batman movies I've ever seen.

Jason Todd is an example of a resurrected character done right

Don't forget how Jason said he wasn't going to k!ll every criminal just those that are way beyond redemption or control Joker is one of those villians that needs to be put down yet batman won't do it or let anyone else do it

When it comes to rehabilitation, the main thing with that is, YOU have to want to get better. Everytime Batman puts his rouges gallery in Arkham, they don't try to better themselves, they wait to get out, wether it's a break out or by other means. Batman trying to give them the chance to change is squandered cause they don't wanna get better, they wanna keep being who they are. I think it's very interesting to think about and I love Jason and he will always be my favorite.

A lot of fans also argue that just crippling the Joker would be enough. Render him incapable of continuing with his shenanigans.