Gödel, Escher, Bach author Doug Hofstadter on the state of AI today

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*Douglas Hofstadter*, the Pulitzer Prize–winning author of Gödel, Escher, Bach, reflects on how he got interested in the mind and consciousness, how he came to write Gödel, Escher, Bach, and why he is terrified by the current state of AI.

CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
1:30 How did you first get interested in AI?
5:01 Tell us more about recursion & self-reflection
10:03 How did GEB come to life?
21:21 Which ideas from GEB are most relevant today?
29:23 What about AI terrifies you?
34:35 How have LLMs impacted your view of how human creativity works?
37:14 Is there something analogous in history that terrified people?
38:20 What brings you joy these days?

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All Comments (21)
  • @walidtr6319
    The man who inspired me to get into computing and get a PhD in artificial intelligence
  • GEB changed the path of my life. I was an 18 year old high school dropout when I picked it up. Each chapter was mind blowing once I had read through it enough to understand it. After reading it I started pursuing computer science. I've been working with technology for decades now and look back at that book as being one of the reasons why.
  • @BradleyKieser
    A living legend that has impacted most of us in the AI field and computer sciences. One of the most incredible reads of my youth and milestone mark for for an entire IT generation.
  • @eo293a
    Wow, I didn't realize how much his views on superhuman AI have shifted. I used think: "Maybe Hofstadter is right", as a relief. Guess that won't help anymore.
  • Came here from the David Brooks article. Great to see Hofstadter. How about more Hofstadter 🤓
  • Something I really hadn't cottoned to until watching this: Dr. Hofstadter's career mirrors Gödel's! Gödel started his career in physics, but switched to logic. Dr. Hofstadter started his career in logic, but switched to physics (and later came home to logic). It was a joy to meet and talk with Dr. Hofstadter at IU so many years ago, and it's great to hear his current thinking here.
  • @jumpstar9000
    GEB has been a cornerstone of my entire career and large swaths of my life
  • @caidosouls
    Would it be possible to strip the music out and reupload? This is so good it's a shame.
  • @9000ck
    i am terrified that hofstadter is terrified. i grew up admiring GEB and i consider it a huge influence on my life and way of thinking. it's about 10% of the reason i became a psychiatrist. (the other 90 being caring for people, writing, reading, money).
  • @assaad33
    I feel so lucky to have met Hofstadter in Paris in 2018. I will never forget that day!
  • @jaydee4397
    The way this dude was keeping it real at the end was breathtaking.
  • @MarcoDonadelli
    GEB was (and still is) one of the best books I ever read and a real transformative one. But I would also mention another less-known masterpiece by Professor Hofstadter: ‘Le Ton Beau De Marot: In Praise Of The Music Of Language’. It’s a wonderful book on language, translation, and cognitive science that revolves around the translation of a short (and rather uninteresting) French poem. The insights on languages, brain, and cognitive science are almost as good as those from GEB.
  • @kcnickerson
    Reading GEB (multiple times) is arguably the most important book in terms of thinking and career development.
  • @rodomontade
    "wow, interesting, unique!" sure is a "unique" way to respond to a statement of genuine, deep existential dread
  • Back in the 1980's I once spent what could easily have been an extremely boring Saturday in detention in high school, but I found Metamagical Themas in the library, and the day just flew by. Thanks DH.
  • @therealzilch
    Douglas Hofstadter is one of our great thinkers. He opened many doors in my mind also. Cheers from sunny Vienna, Scott