Is Bocchi The Rock Superior To K-on??

Published 2023-06-06
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All Comments (21)
  • @miczekc
    connor suggesting the anime discussion and then proceeding to just listen to garnt and joey discussing slice of life is peak trash taste
  • "It might not connect to many people, But those it does, it'll hit deeply" - poor blue haired girl
  • @willynilly91
    Joey being exasperated by Bocchi's social anxiety carries the same kind of energy as "Get in the f***ing robot, Shinji"
  • @aps7637
    Whole concept of bochhi the rock was to highlight how introverts/socially awkward/people with social anxiety feel, as a show it has to exacerbate those emotions but whoever has gone through it knows how much close that show really hits.
  • Funny thing is while Joey is arguing K-On is better he ends up unfairly downplaying BOTH shows.
  • @alisama8771
    Listening Joe's opinion about Bocchi was painful
  • Joey saying "hurry it up" in relation to getting over crippling social anxiety shows that he's never had any social anxiety. The reason it takes so long in the show, is because it's accurate to how impossibly difficult it can be to get over extreme social anxiety.
  • @AkaiProtea
    The thing about Hitori isn't that she is fully 'relatable' but a lot of the awkward scenes feel real to someone. Most people likely won't be as anxious all the time, but introverts will certainly see one particular scene and Cringe because they have done the very same thing. (Pacing in front of a building before entering because you're afraid no one else is there yet and you'll stand out all alone for e.g.)
  • @pehpehkia
    Watching the audience let Joey cook pretty much sums up how bad the take was in a lot of people's minds
  • @sometime2530
    Joey: extreme social anxiety doesn't exist Shit take of the year contender right there well maybe just factually incorrect
  • @Sugarist0
    This take is embodiment of “if you’re homeless just buy a house”
  • @12sikrabfinah
    Joey’s opinion on anime is like Connor but he uses fancy words to justifies it
  • @benanderson95
    I was that lonely kid in school. Joey probably wasn't, which is why he wouldn't find it relatable. The one thing separating me from Bocchi, is that Bocchi is insanely talented.
  • @maxhydra6432
    Joey continueously dismissing Hitoris social anxiety as "too absurd and unrealistic" is painful, because Joey just haven't met those kinds of people. As someone that used to be EXTREMELY socially arwkard, and as such has had like minded friends. THEY EXIST. Joey's persoanlity and outgoing nature just makes it so he dosen't meet those people cause of course he hasn't, he's an extrovert. He dosen't have social anxiety, he hasn't been in these situations. I love Joey, but oh my god his takes on shy people as a whole give me a headache.
  • All Joey had to say was, "I understand where you're coming from, I just can't relate because I never experienced something like that or met anyone similar." Instead of, I don't know, alienating a large portion of people who feel or relate to that guy who asked them that question. It's not even a trash taste at that point, that's nigh on or borderline insulting.
  • Damn the Bocchi takes hurt lol. Its a very accurate depiction of social anxiety, and the absurdly unrealistic and exaggerated art direction reflects that. People with social anxiety tend to get locked in a feedback loop of anxiety, and even very mundane and simple situations can seem like a very real threat. What can start as a thought can suddenly transform into a train of dread, panic, and catastrophizing. The art direction excels in delivering Bocchi's thought process and anxiety. What the show also gets right is the importance of a good support system and that getting over social anxiety is a slow process. I actually love Bocchi's progression through the show because it feels earned and its not rushed. She'd go into her panic state many times when you're first introduced to her, and she does go through that panic throughout the show, but as the show progresses, her friends pick up on her behavior, triggers, and learn how to adapt to help her, even to the point of snapping her out of it sometimes. You have crucial moments in the show too where Bocchi realizes that things aren't bad as she thought, like during her street performance where she realized she didn't have any enemies in front of her. Its those little bouts of progression that are realistic and its what makes it hit home. On the surface, its a cute girls doing cute things music anime like K-ON, but its actually a deep psychological and mental commentary on introvertedness, social anxiety, band life, etc.
  • @SF7PAKISTAN
    Man I made this comment before when a clip of this discussion surfaced before but since it's officially uploaded I gotta make this comment again. At 4:13 Joey and Connor are missing the point by miles, especially when calling out the guy who raised his hand for being as socially awkward as Bocchi. I don't think that they're doing this on purpose but because, most likely, they've never been socially awkward. BTR is hilarious at its depictions of social anxiety but they're still absolutely grounded in real experiences, the mangaka has either been through those experiences or they have done excellent research because as a socially awkward person, I have felt every single one of those and which is why I enjoyed the show so much. As with Bocchi again, most of it is just your mind running off the rails, which is why I think people who haven't had the same experiences cannot understand it completely. But the way the internal ramblings are portrayed are scarily accurate. I fail to remember at this point how many times I've come home to absolutely painful headaches from school or social events because I had to try to make sense of the situation, calm myself, keep track of what's being said and implied and say what I want to say in a way that it precisely means what I want it to mean. All of this had to be done where I would have to run through multiple options of what to say or do or how to stand and where to stand or how to stand so I put my best foot forward and don't come off as aggressive, creepy or weird. For someone who doesn't have it imagine taking 10 calls at the same time and none of the subjects being discussed at the same time have to do anything with the others. All of these mental gymnastics mean that eventually there comes a point where you avoid social situations because the recovery from them is a greater chore than being in them and trying to blow some steam off. Does all this worrying have any use? Absolutely not, most people don't remember or care and even those who do, don't think too much about it or bring it up to you. But you always think that you're being judged and there's not much that you can do about it, since talking about it somewhat taboo as well. Which is why as that person in the audience who raised their hand, it's much easier than all the mental stress to somehow get it out there that yes I'm socially awkward which prepares the other party for the conversation which might not be as fluid as they might get from a sociable person. Joey with that question invited the opportunity for that person but then immediately shut it down, to his perspective it makes perfect sense that an absolutely socially awkward person would never have the confidence to admit such a thing. But to a socially awkward person, getting it out there that you are, in a way that isn't derogatory sets the tone of the conversation and the eventual engagement with the other party to be on much more neutral terms where you don't have to absolutely exhaust yourself. It's just as if you're learning another language and you tell the other person that you're not that great at it so they can accommodate you by being more understanding and talking in a way that is intelligible and comfortable for you. In such a context, the other person is also going to be a lot more forgiving of your small mistakes and understand that you don't mean to be insult or offend them. It's something that's rather easy to dismiss by someone who hasn't experienced it but is absolutely crucial to understand how someone who has social anxiety thinks and acts
  • @D3D3D
    I do relate a lot to Bocchi (obviously not 100%). Everytime she had her hallucinations that made her believe people would get mad because she did something wrong really hit home. Also I could end up lying or agreeing to everything just to avoid trouble .
  • @cody5089
    You can tell Joey is being a hater because he criticizes Bocchi The Rock for "not getting to the music making fast enough" yet K-On has way less of that but says K-On is better. He also says he doesn't like people comparing Bocchi The Rock and K-On but literally compares Bocchi The Rock to K-On all the time.