Alco PA The Complete Story 2.0

Published 2024-04-03
New improved narration, more details.

Dogger Bend Railway UP Big Boy
   • big boy 4014 stream Union Pacific  

gmpullman :D&H Alco PA
   • Delaware & Hudson Alco PA-1s 1973  

baldwinloco12: Alco RS-1
   • Rare ALCO RS1 #292 in Action! Conrad ...  

rollingswitch: Alco RS-3
   • ALCO RS3 Pair Almost Light and Moving...  

Alco 60 tonner William Hunter CC BY 2.0
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ALCO_diesel_locomoti…

Alco DL 109
(DVD) New York, New Haven & Hartford Railroad Volume 1 - A & R Productions
Note: the original publishers website (www.classicrailroadvideos.com) seems to be defunct.

NW3
Wikicommons Akampfer CC BY-SA 3.0
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:EMD_NW3_locomo…
FM sub apposed piston engine 1 Atlant CC by 2.5
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Oppose…

Trains sim classic (footage);
dovetailgames.com/

NPR 190
NOYB#1 CC BY 2.0
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:ALCO_PA_locomo…
Museum of the American Railroad D&H alco pa shell.
www.historictrains.org/projects/alco-pa-1-image-ga…

DL109 video
(DVD) New York, New Haven & Hratforad Railraod Voulume 1: A & R Producions
Website defunct, avalible from 3rd party retailers.

Alco PA's in mexico
(DVD) Those-Incredible-Alcos-Volume 1 (diesel dinosaur delights): Pentrex
pentrex.com/DVD-Those-Incredible-Alcos-Volume-1-DV…


Pacific Southwest Railway Museum: 244 prime mover
www.psrm.org/
The Museum of the American RailroadAlco PA under restoration pics www.historictrains.org/

All Comments (21)
  • @alcobufff
    My apologies! When I was speaking of the alco DL109' production, I meant when the United States entered WWII which was 1941 not the start of the war which was 1939. 1941 was the year the war production board took control of US production 10:59.
  • @BudTheDrummer
    The New Haven roster 43 FA-1s, 5 FB-1s and 26 PA-1s. All built in the late '40's and all gone by the time I was born in 1958, replaced by Alco RS-3s, RS-11s, EMD FL-9s and FM C-425s.. The last locomotives purchased were the GE U25Bs in the late '60's.
  • @joeystrains.9316
    The D and H is probably the best looking paint scheme on the PAs. Excellent video!
  • The D&H had a remarkable locomotive roster, not only for the sleek Alco PAs, but also the giant steam locomotives they used for heavy freight tonnage. A truly remarkable railroad! 🚂
  • The resurrection of Montreal - New York City passenger service in 1974 was called "The Adirondack". The Montrealer was overnight passenger service over Central Vermont across the Lake Champlain.
  • @MontanaDirtRoads
    The locos from the old days cause they looked so much better the locos we got now.i love the lines of the rounded stream line shapes of the units.
  • @jeffreyhunt1727
    You've done a great job with this video. You consistently produce great content and this is a prime example!
  • @NELSONRRVIDS
    I love your Alco videos. The PA's, FA's and FPA's are my favorites
  • @tbh791
    The red PA demo set was absolutely gorgeous.
  • @edwardlobb931
    I was a a Swing Clerk timekeeper on the one day the books had to be on the train to Mobile via St.Louis. The office was in the large receiving area for the main engine shed, with a massive overhead crane that could lift the housing off the palette, exposing the entire engine for replacement. GMs would be pushed in with rods poking out, never Arcos. The Santa Fe, more than likely, hooked up the Arcos before going west over Raton Pass, but there were many running GM&O very long freight on the flat between Chicago and St. Louis, or KC.
  • @Reaper1770
    If you’re ever curious I’d recommend having a look at the alco export DL500s such as the SA 930 class and the NSW 44 class in heritage operations. It’s a beautiful sound the alco 251
  • Awsome video. I live about 7 miles from Sayre PA, one of Alco PA's old haunts. I guess what ever Erie had as well as D& H and DLW would have passed near by as well.
  • @AussiePom
    We had Alcos here in Australia specifically in the state of New South Wales. The first mainline diesels were the 20 unit Alcos of 1951 but built in Canada due to the high cost of American dollars at that time with an AIA+AIA wheels arrangement and being very similar to a US switcher design. They could work light weight passenger trains and freight trains but struggled on heavy freight trains. The units usually worked in pairs but their multiple unit jumper cables only had 21 pins where as later diesels all had 27 pins. Their engine was an Alco 244 and subsequent Alco diesels were all of the Co-Co wheel arrangement. Next was the 6 units of the 43 class of 1956 with was a Goninan-Alco-GE again with the Alco 244 engine. The 100 units of the 44 class 1957 Alcos had the 251B engine originally with GE 731 traction motors but later with AEI 253 or 254 traction motors. The the 165 48 class of 1959 with an Alco 251B The the 40 units of the 45 class with Alco 251C engines. 40 units of the 442 class of 1970 with an Alco 12.251C engine and lastly the 50 units of the 80 class of 1978 with a 12.251CE engine. Alco had an Australian agent and builder AE Goodwin Limited who built the 44, 48, 45 and 442 class of Alco locos the 80 class were built by Commonwealth Engineering after AE Goodwin's demise. The state of Victoria was a GM only state and Victorian railway enthusiasts loved to come up to NSW to film Alcos in action and vice versa but NSW also had GM's too. It may seem odd that a state that had relied so much on Britain for it's steam locos should go "American" for diesels. Only one class of diesel loco for NSW came from Britain the 10 units of the 41 class and they were a dismal failure. After that horrible experience British diesel locomotive manufacturers were forever shut out of the standard gauge scene in Australia.
  • @jeffreyhunt1727
    31:35 To "forge" a piece of metal is to heat it, pound it, and deform it into the desired shape. There's no "chiseling" involved until the VERY last step - "machining" is the process of cutting a shape from a piece of metal. The two are very different. Alco fixed the problem by forging the crankshaft, not machining it.
  • I remember, as a kid, seeing the shell of the Alco PA that eventually was restored to the NKP 190 sitting in the Union Pacific railyard in Albany, Oregon. It was there for a few years as I recall. If I was on the driver's side of the car, I could look down off the overpass and see this rusted, stripped hulk of a locomotive that I knew nothing about. Years later, I saw it, nearly fully operational, at the Oregon Rail Haritage Center a couple of times. Never saw it running, but I did get to look into the engine room and see the massive prime mover. Not sure if its the Alco prime mover, or and EMD one.
  • @49commander
    I also read that EMD actually sent factory engineers to key customers to get to the root cause of any early issues!
  • They are an engine that once You see it You never forget it and want to know more, It is a Very Handsome Engine ALCO did Good Here! Thank You !
  • @4everdc302
    Bravo. Well done👏 I'll have to pull out my PA1/PB1/PA1 NYC the next time I post🚂🇨🇦🇺🇲🙋
  • @royzug2847
    Once again you have provided an informative, historical account of the ALCO company.
  • @trainglen22
    Delaware and Hudson never owned any dome cars. They leased 2 from the Canadian Pacific.