Why Ryder BETRAYED Grove Street - Grand Theft Auto San Andreas Explained
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Ryder, a character from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas (GTA SA), is a complex and pivotal figure in the game's storyline. Here's a summary of Ryder's character:
Background: Ryder, whose real name is Lance Wilson, is one of the original members of the Grove Street Families (GSF) gang in Los Santos. He's known for his distinctive appearance, including his green bandana and a unique hairstyle. Ryder is a close childhood friend of the game's protagonist, Carl "CJ" Johnson, and his brother, Sweet.
Personality: Ryder is portrayed as impulsive, unpredictable, and often erratic in his behavior. He is known for his street-smart, rough demeanor, and has a penchant for using colorful and often humorous language. Despite his loyalty to the GSF, Ryder is also shown to be disloyal and willing to bend his allegiances for personal gain.
Role in the Story: Ryder plays a significant role in the game's storyline, particularly in the early missions. He is a key member of the Grove Street Families and helps CJ and Sweet in their endeavors. However, as the game progresses, Ryder's loyalty comes into question, and he becomes increasingly involved with corrupt cops and criminal activities.
Betrayal: One of the central plot twists in GTA SA involves Ryder's betrayal of the Grove Street Families. He aligns himself with the game's primary antagonist, Big Smoke, and the corrupt police officers of C.R.A.S.H. This betrayal has a profound impact on the storyline and leads to dramatic confrontations later in the game.
Fate: Ryder's storyline ultimately culminates in a climactic confrontation with CJ. Depending on the player's choices, Ryder can meet different fates, but his character arc remains one of betrayal and moral ambiguity.
Legacy: Ryder is remembered as one of the game's most enigmatic characters, and his actions have sparked debates and theories among GTA SA fans regarding his true motivations and loyalty.
In summary, Ryder is a character in GTA San Andreas who starts as a loyal member of the Grove Street Families but becomes embroiled in betrayal and criminal activities, making him a central figure in the game's complex and engaging storyline.
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I just watched the introduction movie for the first time yesterday, and what I got from the conversation between Ryder and Smoke, is that he was letting Smoke know that he's not betraying the Grove even if he had a gun to his head. 🤷🏾♂️
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Ryder’s betrayal was made last minute they said the voice actor off Ryder said they did not need him no more
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In the beginning they never targeted Ryder and big smoke leaving the funeral
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He was not supposed to betray grove street
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Ryder wasn't betraying Grove Street, he was the most loyal O.G , all Ryder's mission benefit Grove Street, while Smokes mission benefit him and have nothing to do with the Grove
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HEY FAMILY YOU MAKE ME THINK ABOUT THIS MORE AND MORE. You really hit solid points. I’m going to follow up with you.
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Interesting video, in my opinion there isn’t really a definitive answer to whether he was always gonna betray from the beginning. I’ve seen evidence to support both viewpoints (you have good pieces of that in your video) and I honestly cannot be sure I fall on either side. But maybe your title is accurate and I’m just clueless lol
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Ryder's betrayal was planned from the start? I've played GTA SA multiple times, and this theory sounds stupid.
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From what I can see. RockstarGames just rushed without giving any depth to Ryder’s betrayal. Ryder acted the way he acted at beginning because he was upset CJ left Los Santos. As stated, CJ & Ryder were childhood friends so Ryder constantly being mad at CJ in the beginning was understandable. But everything after just doesn’t make sense. CJ doesn’t even mention him in the Green Sabre mission, only Big Smoke. R* probably just didn’t care about Ryder’s character enough.
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You don’t go from beating up teachers for wearing Ballas colors to teaming up with them. Ryder was never supposed to be a traitor.
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Cool but last time i checked Ryder hates ballas i mean the dude literally beat up a teacher cause he was wearing purple
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Wait a minute... ain't the Seville Boulevard Families colors supposed to be dark green? Ryder is the only one wearing dark green out of the other main grove street members. Could he really have been Seville Boulevard the whole game? Why else would he be wearing the dark green instead of the green that other grove street members wear?
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I also believe he was supposed to betray GSF without examining the evidence. The conversations between Ryder and everyone else, especially with Smoke are very telling.
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I'll stick to canon, a traitor is a traitor unless Rockstar Games makes another 3D Universe game to show the closure on the events before GTA:SA even when it doesn't happen in Los Santos cus people keep crying that Ryder ain't a traitor which might be. Yea it sucks Ryder's character ain't finished since R* rushed his screen time then get CJ to find out later. In Photo Opportunity how did CJ already know Ryder is in the Loco Syndicate? He showed up out of the blue afaik so even tho it sucks to see Ryder as a traitor, he still did at least canonically.
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Not sure if Ryder ALWAYS was supposed to Ryder betray the grove but in saying that 1. Rockstar designed this character dumb as hell as all of his missions contradicts this amongst countless other things. 2. Ryder been with grove since a child and would die for the grove why tf would he betray. 3. Rockstar was on crack when deciding to add Ryder to smokes plan. 4. It doesnt benefit the story whatsoever and is dumb story telling from rockstar in this one. ROCKSTAR ARE BUSTERS
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Ryder was never supposed to betray them
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They need to make a movie
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ok listening to your theory... what stopped big smoke and ryder from killing cj and sweet with emmits AK???? sounds good until you get to the point on , why didn't they do it then? sounds like everything was going according to plan, then he just gives cj the AK? i think maybe you overlooked something unless i missed something
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U need to make a movie
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Ballers and grove are all the crip card just read there sets not every crip gets along I know
