Logic 11 - WHAT HAVE THEY DONE???!!!

Published 2024-05-16
How do we feel about A.I. being used in our trusty DAW is it the beginning of the end or the beginning of the next chapter. Christian takes us through the latest version of Logic (11) what has caught his eye, what he likes, doesn't like. In the next video we will be discussing AI please leave comments below of your thoughts, experiences, fears and exultations.

All Comments (21)
  • @andyneve357
    Good video Christian. Actually Logic 11 does work on Intel processors it’s just mainly the stem separation tools and a few of the demanding AI features that are only for M1 and above. Cheers. Andy
  • @sensumcommunem
    I honestly think that "Not made by A.I.!" will soon become a branding tag across many mediums, art forms, and products. A.I. is simply being used as a buzzword to brand a technology/products which directly affects that company's share price value. A lot of things that are branded as A.I. are not really true A.I., they are what was formerly termed "Expert Systems". The main difference being where the dataset for the old Expert Systems was their access to physical data storage, the new Expert Systems now have access to the internet as their database. Even though what A.I. currently produces is pretty good, and it will get better, I still think there will be a sterile element to it. It won't be anything particular that you will be able to discern, or identify, it will just be a feeling that something is off. A little bit like in the 1986 remake of "The Fly" movie. When they teleport the steak through the telepods: it looks just like a steak, smells just like a steak, but - upon tasting - just doesn't taste right. I think A.I. produced material will be very much like this. Of course, in the corporate world, if the executives can get ad, TV, and promotional music/video for free, then they will use it, but it will be noticeable. Just as the likenesses of many famous actors are now being used in film and TV commercials. You recognize them, and they fit the intended part/role, but - as visually close to the real thing they are - they are still easy to identify as being artificially generated. I think professional composers and producers will take a hit initially, especially those not in the top tiers with a canon of work behind them, but once things start to become "sameyfied", I think that brands will again want to stand out from the crowd by having "Not made by A.I.!" materials promoting their products to set themselves apart from their competitors. And then we come full circle. I think with anything new or novel, they go through several phases: excitement, awe, mistrust, rejection, and compromise. I think that A.I. is currently at the mistrust/rejection phase. There will be a backlash, but that backlash will only carry weight if the big players get involved too (top directors, actors, producers, bands and singers, etc.), because let's face it, they too also face being made redundant. Sure, they can sell their "image rights", but most actors/singers do what they do because of the fame and adoration it attracts, and that will dissipate when their fans know it's just a render of that person, not the person themselves. I think there will then be a period of compromise where A.I. gets to do the boring/mundane elements, leaving the human to concentrate on the more creative elements of the production process. The very thing that makes it unique. I could be wrong, but I hope not. P.S. I am not a music composer or producer, I'm just a home hobbyist.
  • @Rice_sama
    You mentioned you have switched to Cubase from logic. If you haven’t already can you please make a video explaining why and a retrospective on your feelings of both programs?
  • @starsky101
    I’m gonna go right out there and say it, stem splitting is the biggest thing to happen to music since sampling. The next step will be accurate splitting of each part of a symphony orchestra. 3rd trumpet for me, as it has the solo in Birdland.
  • We need more explicit-filled rants from Christian! I love and can relate to this energy 🤣 Couldn't agree more about the points on mediocrity. I am not sure why you would want your DAW to write your music for you – if you're a musician, composer, producer, ideally you got into it to create your own music in the first place. Some might think of it as a good "jumping off point" but why jump off from mediocrity? To only create more copy-paste mediocrity? The world doesn't need more of that. The world needs to hear from YOU.
  • I will defo be using the stem splitter, love the way you have presented this new version 11
  • @antsteep
    I have lost a job to AI. I was composing for a metaverse computer game. They have now told me it is gong to be better for marketing if the music is composed by AI and want me to facilitate that for a fraction of the fee rather than compose. They want to ride the hype train rather than have the best results. At the AI music industry moment it is tech bros trying to raise money. They are taking in lots of venture capital money and those investors are going to want to see some kind of profitable business. Is it going to be a viable business model for film makers to subscribe to a service to have AI make their music?
  • @MeesterSmeeeth
    Gotta love Logic. I've been using it since v1 to make songs and tunes. It's always been 'enough' to allow me to make music, from the days of tapes and Romplers until the incredible stuff built in today. And now, with the latest versions, I made, produced, mixed and released an album -- to zero ears! -- on a laptop from my sofa. Crazy times. It always makes my heart sink when people complain about this stuff. It's incredible. I'd hate to be so jaded and joyless. The bass players may not be of interest, but the new bass instruments most certainly are, they sound great. Even if the built in players play them much better than I can.
  • Music for me has always been a communication of one or many peoples expression of feeling transmitted through the air. The more you remove the human from the process the worse it gets. Alas,🤔 🎶🎹🎶Play On
  • I think this is one of the best , most insightful videos I have seen in a long time....Im subscribing now!
  • @chakratones
    You are on absolutely blistering top form, thank you!
  • Just tried it on an old band rehearsal recording! Wow - it really works well! This is going to be so useful!
  • So true. Mediocrity through perfection. You are good. Well spotted and well said.
  • @TheHouseOfVII
    I have been playing with the Stem Splitter - and it's been fascinating. Particularly with drums, being able to hear them in isolation I've noticed so many clever programming tricks or drum hits that I hadn't consciously noticed in the full mix of the track. And I love your idea of taking moving picture and pulling out the music so you can then go in and write your own music with the voices of the actors still in place - hadn't even crossed my mind that would be a use case it for. I mainly used Ableton but I'm definitely going to be pulling out Logic for this!
  • @damienribot1143
    Using AI to separate the voice from the background "noise" in the singer's microphone, was a fabulous solution for mixing a live recording.
  • @Mysdee-B
    I started producing three years ago, and I cannot agree more with educational value of stem splitter. I have analyzed hundreds of tracka using Demucs, and learned a lot. Welcome addition to Logic.
  • @neilmacmusic
    as usual I totally love and am educated by your great videos🙏 thank you so much🎈 if I can mention the S word who would've thought that something even greater could emerge from Spitfire Audio than the essence himself! ...your approach is even more genuine and grassroots than before🤟 cheers
  • @AndyDrudy
    I keep wondering as I watch this video - what the hit is on your electricity bill to keep that big synth turned on!
  • @Dragonit_es
    Thanks for the vid, really well done and insightful ❤