Using Numbers to Find the 75 Greatest NBA Players of All-Time

Her: so where do you want to go to dinner tonight? Jimmy: let me show this huge graph of all possible places to eat tonight

The amount of effort that goes into these videos is astonishing!

Jokic's recalculated score, just after Denver won the title: 1 championship = +2 points 1 finals MVP = +10.5 points 2 MVPs (previously had 1) + 7.5 points (for a total of 18 points) 6.64 assists per game = +1 point (since Lillard's average is now 6.70) WS/48: .2474 = +17 points PER: 27.7 = +19 points Shot making = ?? Impact and influence = ?? This gives him a total of 67.5, putting him in 13th overall If you give him a few points for shot making and impact/influence, then he could be as high as 10th overall. He would also gain 10+ points if we used total rebound percentage (TRB%) instead of total rebounds (a lot of the top rebounders played in an era where pace was much higher and shooting percentages were much lower, so there were waaaaay more rebounds to go around)...Jokic ranks 13th all-time in TRB% (and only behind Moses Malone, Dwight Howard and Joel Embiid amongst players on the top 110 list) since they began tracking it in 1970. He ranks ahead of Wes Unseld (5th highest RPG all-time) in TRB% -- who played all but 2 seasons after 1970. Using this criteria, he might gain 10-15 points, which would easily put him in the top 10 (according to this criteria)

Bird has to be in that influence and impact section. Him and Magic saved basketball and made it extremely popular. They set up the globalization that Jordan brought to the sport. Basketball wouldn’t have taken off the way it did in the 90s without Bird and Johnson. Bird is also hugely important because he got the white audience into basketball

jimmy needs a podcast. bro could talk about anything and i’m tuning in

Jimmy's graphs just keep getting bigger and bigger lol

Jimmy should revisit this metric every few years to see active players development!!!

I GUARANTEE the current player he was thinking of was Luka Doncic, because that man is the next face of the NBA

- Michael Jordan places 13 in shot making. MJ: “I took that personally..”

Jxmy in high school: When will I ever use math after school? Jxmy now: Using numbers to find the 75 greatest NBA players of All-time

Bird should be higher in the shot-making category. Arguably the greatest clutch shooter in the history of the game. Made many game-winning last-second shots, even when the defense knew they were coming. Should also be part of the "Impact and Influence" rankings, since he and Magic re-ignited interest in a dying league.

Wilt needs to be higher than 10 for impact and influence. The league changed the rules so he couldn’t dominate as easily. No other player has that kind of influence. In terms of players that have changed the way we see the game, the way we watch basketball, the way we play basketball, he changed the way we see and play the game LITERALLY through the rules. No other player has done that.

Being critical of the “eye test” and showing Skip & Shannon is hilarious.

Appreciate the video man, great to see this type of breakdown!

i come back to this video a lot, not because of how hard u definitely worked on this, but more about how humble you are about your list considering the amount of work put in. the ability to admit that there are many flaws in a project you probably put weeks if not a month into is something to be appreciated. thank u jxmy

Positives: The whole damn project. Lotta work. Also, love the shout-outs to Moses Malone and Buck's-era Kareem. Highlighting Robinson's productivity was great (love Hakeem, but I'm always reminding people that Robinson was VERY similar in most stats). Whatever the minuses, overall this was really interesting, and I'm sure a lot of work. Thanks! Minuses: 1. Your two subjective lists have... um... problems. For Impact, Kobe was more impactful/influential than Curry, Russell, Chamberlain, Dr. J, and Magic? Come on now. And shouldn't Magic & Bird be joined at the hip when it comes to impact and influence, but Bird doesn't even make the list? (If you're including Magic's social impact for how he handled his HIV diagnosis, then he should be #1 hands down!) And as for "Shot Making", not only do you have Kobe over Jordan, but you have Kobe #1 and Jordan #13... when they're the damn same player in the sense of being a "shot maker" (and Jordan, although 1% less on 3PT%, was 4% more efficient overall.) The "Shot Making" list is just strange for all kinds of reasons (Ex: Are distance shooters "shot makers" because they can easily "create" by shooting from far away? And Kyrie #11? Over Wade and Jordan and Ice? No. And Vince Carter makes it, but A.I. doesn't? And again, Kyrie is #11, but A.I. ain't even on the list! And wasn't Wilt pretty good at making a shot? What about the logo? Legend has it that Elgin Baylor was pretty good too.) 2. The points given by rank are a little suspect. Ten All-NBA Teams gets you 1 point, but 11 All-NBA Teams gets you 8 points? And I assume 9 selections gets you nothing. Wes Unseld - who I checked to make sure he got his proper love - actually got too much love by your system. Players who had 7, 8, or 9 All-NBA selections should've be given something for that, to separate them from players like Unseld, who wasn't nearly so dominant for so long. 3. You triply messed up Wes Unseld's points (neglected his Final's MVP, didn't include his photo among the Championships, and incorrectly computed his score even given those two mistakes. This makes me wonder... did you do this by hand? I assume you used a spreadsheet, but if done by hand, then - Holy Hell dude - that's WAAAY above and beyond.) 4. Ice Ice Baby! Under Shot Making, you put George Gervin #18. LOL Players in NBA history with 4 scoring titles in 5 years: Durant, Jordan, Gervin, Chamberlain. And Allen Iverson is the only other player to get 4 scoring titles total. And... Gervin spent his first 4 years in the ABA before the merger, so who knows if he might have had even more? And, for a wing, his career 2 PT % of 512 is, um... pretty good, eh? That SOB seemingly never missed. He's underappreciated.

All of Jimmys comments be like : “whenever Jimmy uploads its a great day”. And they are all true

That player is LUKA the Don! Might pass Bron in all -nba team selections

These videos really highlight the shortcomings of using ranking over scoring in such a comparison. By assigning points based on ranks, some categories like # of MVPs or # of _ selections can create massive disparities in points. The difference between 10 and 11 selections shouldn't be way more valuable than the difference between 11 and 12. Also limiting to 20 in any category is going to inhibit well-rounded players who might not make the top 20 but consistently sit in the top half of the list.

Love the concept, I personally would've ranked all 110 though in each category. I understand for things like influence that would've taken days, but I think it would make the list more accurate past the top 10 to 15