What REALLY Killed Engineers on LV-223 || Analysis Hidden Clues Prometheus
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Published 2017-06-25
What is the Green Goo on the hologram panel?
In this video I wanna talk about what really happened to Engineers on LV 223. there are many clues in Prometheus about this accident including the hologram and the pile of Engineer bodies. I’ll say right away that the assumptions that the crew makes about what happened are mostly wrong just like their thoughts about the nature of engineers. This theory that I have actually explains why there is only one engineer left alive why he didn’t launch the ship 2000 years ago, what is excatly the Green Goo that David sees on the panel and there is one specific clue that almost directly indicates who killed the Engineers.
First of all, the entrance to that temple required the Prometheus crew to physically crouch down and wiggle their way through a broken door. As we can see there is a curved door frame and what seem to be layers of a stone/metallic door, of which the final panel was busted in.
There is no way an Engineer would fit through that small portion of open door. Thus, the door to the Temple was clearly shut or in the process of closing when something busted in not out as we are meant to belive.
This shot shows clear cuts and straight metallic borders on each panel, indicating that this was not simply a "hole in the Pyramid". All that suggests the Temple may have fallen prey to an attack, rather than an outbreak...
Given the analysis above, it leaves us with a few probabilities. Either the Pyramid and the Engineer installations on LV-223 were the target of another fraction of Engineers, or an Alien creature got loose on the planet, found its way to the Pyramid, broke its way in and killed the engineers
Now that we know that it was an attack on the temple, let’s talk about who or what could have done it.
LV-223 and LV-426 (seen in ALIEN and ALIENS) are part of the same system. The Space Jockey ship which crashed on LV-426 was very, very old and carried a cargo full of Xenomorph Eggs. Is it possible, that the Space Jockey represented a different race of Engineer, one that was opposed to the group on LV-223, that could explain the size difference between the Space Jokey and Engineers in Prometheus. or possibly the Space Jokey was a radical from their own group, who attempted to stop the assault on Earth. There could have been an Engineer civil war due to the one extremist fraction and will to destroy Humanity. Perhaps Aliens were dropped onto the LV-223 to eradicate the Engineers before they launched their assault on Earth, but in the process, the cargo was unstable and got loose somehow - killing the radical Space Jockey in the process and crashing on LV-426 shortly after its "drive-by" of LV-223. Certainly a possible scenario
The Green Goo on the Hologram control panel
Let’s discuss what is the green goo on the hologram control panel. This is not the Black Goo and it looks very reminiscent of Xenomorph saliva, however it's not. Upon closer analyzing the goo, David remarks "impressive..." and when zoomed in, it looks like the Goo consists of intricate cells which are seemingly still active, even after 2,000 years.
What is this green goo then, I think it may be Engineer blood. In the comic books, when Engineer fought with a predator, his blood was clearly green. I also made a video about this fights, you can check it out on my channel. The burnt Engineer face has some green spots and when the deacon bursts out of the Engineers, we can also see some green drops despite that Deacon contaminated the engineer body and organs turning them blue.
But who actually killed the Engineers, there are some Blatant audio clues to support an Alien attack
At the end of the movie, we witness deacon and his roar. So the weird sound that we hear at the beginning of the hologram is actually Deacon.
ou can compare your self the audio played at the start of the hologram at the end of Prometheus and the two match up identically.
That can give a possible answer why there only one Engineer left alive.
Given that the crew didn’t find the Deacon’d body there was an Engineer vs. Deacon conflict following the initial attack. The Engineer, who David wakes up in Prometheus was the only one to survive the ordeal and who likely killed the Deacon or at least trapped it in the room, behind the pile of dead Engineer bodies. Why he didn't flee in the Juggernaut ship is unknown, but could be due to the fact that he was infected by the Deacon prior to his victory - leaving a spore inside of him.
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All Comments (21)
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We could have had answers, instead we got Walter playing with David's flute.
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in the original prometheus script the engineer was actually infected by a facehugger. in the script engineers were breeding several kinds of xenos, some extra armored, others without any armor that would just slither and get inside rooms through any crevice. there were also several docks with different types of eggs and different types of facehuggers. the prometheus engineer was infected and froze himself so he wouldn't die. when the humans woke him up, he was extremely angry because they had just basically killed him by waking him up. as the engineer launches the ship, the xeno (called in the script ubermorph) inside him bursts out which causes the ship to crash. honestly i liked the early script versiona lot more than the final thing. although outlandish it explained a whole lot more and made more sense.
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LV-223 has silica storms which are blowing around sand/glass/gravel. After 2000 years, it shouldn't surprise anyone that the outer doorway and interior doorway are low in height. It's like the Egyptian Sphinx being buried up to it's head periodically throughout history. I suspect the outer entry way and inner doorway had greater head clearance in the past when Engineers were there to maintain it.
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There’s a lot trash talk about these movies, but I’ve never seen so much interesting analysis on any other movie franchise. Maybe they’re not so bad after all? (I’m talking to the haters)
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The key to this riddle is how did the Engineers die? At first I thought (5:44) alien attack due to the head trauma, but then I began to notice that Engineers had holes in other parts of their bodies. which suggests weapons fire. I think they were attacked by another faction of Engineers. What if the last Engineer wasn't a survivor of LV223, but the last aggressor who attacked LV223, and needed medical rest after the battle? What if the Juggernaut had been sent to LV223 to steal the black goo from the supply temple, and the local Engineers had resisted?
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I still like the theory that the engineers not only seeded life, but return periodically through history to make alterations. And the last scheduled moment where they planned to return to earth, the attack on the engineers in Promethius occurred and the earth remained unaltered giving humanity a chance to thrive and accelerate civilization which was never meant to happen. Upon realizing what happened, the engineer dispatched the humans in the ship and intended to destroy the life on Earth to eliminate any possible future threats.
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You are clearly a thinker and I'm here for it! This is the most satisfaction I get from the Alien franchise and I love that your theory doesn't merge the Engineers and Space Jockey, but leaves them as separate beings. Thumbs up! And I love your voice, leave it as it is :-)
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There's gonna be a prequel movie for the prequel movie explaining who broke in and what happen to the engineers.
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Predator blood is green. The engineers blood is more on the blue spectrum. Great job picking up the green goo.
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Note the hole near chest on the two sleep pods inside the juggernaut cockpit, looks like typical alien attack. Also the only engineer left noticed one of the guard had a gun and used it to attack his partner. This might make him deduct that they were also responsible of his crews' death, making him aggressive later on.
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Some interesting theories, I always thought that didn't make sense in Prometheus, you could clearly see it looks like they were trying to seal the temple from letting anything in. I really like the music you use for these alien videos.
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Ah, my most favorite 1.25x speed narrator.
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I'm not really very deep into the subject but the question that has not been answered is; "did the Engineers really want to wipe out the humans of earth and why?" Without those answers it's nearly pointless to speculate but still fun. My favorite possibilities are, in no particular order: 1. The Engineers had no real intention of wiping any humans out and it was all just a mistake in translation and twisted by David. They created and/or weaponised the xenomorphs, and/or black goo, for apparent military but unrelated reasons. David is not the most dependable source of info! 2. This could also be called "1a" because it presupposes they found or created one or the other and somehow infected a population of humans. If the Engineer knew of no humans other than those who are part of the xenomorph hatching cycle it would be perfectly understandable for him to attack humans on sight. The possibilities are endless and would even include two groups of Engineer scientists, one studying freakish mutations and the other studying ancient man, and they crossed their research through some accident resulting in humans, either on earth or elsewhere, becoming perfect hosts and once again a smart engineer would be expected to kill humans on sight. 3. They really were going to bomb earth with black goo but that's because there was already an outbreak of xenomorphs or unknown black goo creatures or something related but different on earth and they wanted to reset the life cycle of earth for the good of galactic life. I find it very unlikely that a species as advanced as the Engineers would wipe out a sapient race because of hubris or quasi-religious mystical reasons. Maybe humans are the only species known to be able to produce viable queens? That would be a good reason, form a certain point of view, to wipe out humanity. Cheers!
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I am absolutely positive that the Engineers had a change of heart. Unless those were the very last Engineers, they would have sent another ship after noticing that the first mission had failed. The one that was revived in Prometheus, was 2000 years out of date, possibly confused, and the first thing it sees after being revived after that long was an old arrogant selfish little human who thinks he deserved immortality for creating an android, and another human beating on a helpless female who was wounded from recent surgery because Weyland didn't want her to speak. The Engineer seemed more amused than amazed that humans were there standing before him but after he saw that....no wonder he wanted to still kill us all. Humans have reached the stars, but they are still evidently barbaric and selfish from the Engineers point of view.....who was sent on a mission to bomb Earth with the black goo thousands of years prior. Those types of humans spreading throughout the stars is a very real threat to their existence. The Engineer assessed the situation at hand and decided that the mission was still on. I can't help but shake the feeling that if the Engineer's first encounter with humans had been a lot more pleasant, without a display of barbarism and selfish desperate greed, that the Engineer would have changed his mind. Especially if someone brought a musical instrument with them.
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Love the way you present your videos, the bg music, pacing... all very informative and relaxing man. Keep it up!
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It was a combination of Deacon class Aliens and the black substance. You can hear a Deacon screaming as the holo-recording commences. The murals indicate that the engineers idolized the concept of "perfect organism" or at the very least perfection. The way the ampules were laid out in front of the Big Head statue of the the Elder(Engineer at the beginning of the film) as well as the Deacon like Crucifix Mural. The Engels were trying to achieve perfection on LV-223, likely in honor of the original Elders who seeded life millions of years ago, though clearly this was a militaristic faction working I bioengineers on multiple projects, hence the multiple domed structures on the planet. Clearly the Deacon types broke containment and in the chaos the Black Goo, or "Accelerant" was released. The engineers never did achieve the perfect organism, that was David, the engineers are however responsible for the Evolutionary history of the Alien, but it is David who is the perfectionist.
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I think it needs to be said; your accent is cool and the choice of music is perfect for alien videos.
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Your videos on this are mythical... totally opened a new world for me with Prometheus and Covenant. I will have to watch them again then watch these again :)
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I like the theory. I just wish Ridley Scott would make up his damned mind and finish what he starts. Weyland is obviously a representation of Scott who thinks he’s going to live forever . The man is old and needs to straighten this storyline out.
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Good content, u deserve a lot more than only 3K subs
