Why It Works: The Apartment Fight | Spider-Man: No Way Home

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Willem Dafoe just put forth an acting masterclass in that scene. If "Norman's on sabatical honey" wasn't already scary enough, him just smiling harder when Peter was throwing haymakers at him made me scared of him

The poor May was the real Goblin's target here. Goblin blamed her for Peter's "weakness" and "morality". He thinks that she ruined him.

What’s incredible about the ending is how in the end Peter becomes like Norman in the shelter.Where Peter lives in a world where he doesn’t exist.

Tom's SPIDER SENSE scene with Norman is the best scene of the movie, yeah. Where Peter's sense is on high alert, but he doesn't know what danger is going to came, he just walk around uncomfortably around 5 supervillains with sinister/tense BGM, but doesn't know which one is the danger. And then he found out is the freaking Goblin. Work of art. Also the best Spider Sense in a live action Spider-Man. OP asf.

I just love how Peter goes through so much in this scene, getting his ass beat, losing may, getting shot and having to leave her, and then just listen as Jameson continues to talk shit about him in the rain. It's just SO GOOD.

“NORMAN’S ON SABBATICAL, HONEY” “STRONG ENOUGH TO HAVE IT ALL! TOO WEAK TO TAKE IT” I swear, those lines feel ripped right out of the early 2000s despite being from 2021. Absolutely incredible they were able to nail the tone of Raimi’s out-of-time villains.

I really like that throughout this whole trilogy, there's a natural progression in the villains Peter fights: In Homecoming Vulture is just a guy working to support his wife and daughter. He doesn't want to kill Peter and he even protects his secret identity in the end. In Far From Home, Mysterio is selfish and narcissistic. He wants people to idolize him and he is willing to kill Peter and his friends if they get in his way. In No Way Home, the Green Goblin is pure evil. Simply because it's fun for him. He kills Aunt May and he hurts people because he enjoys it.

It was really interesting to see Tom’s Pete develop a fear, and an eventual hatred for Green Goblin. If you were to simply watch the fight between the two of them, based on Peter’s reaction alone, you could tell he’s never fought anyone like this. Someone who so desperately wants to drive him over the edge. I really think I needed to see that in this movie, because every good hero, has a villain who is good at doing that.

Thoughts people had having during this scene: "Max is gonna flip" "Norman is gonna glip" "Conners is gonna flip" "Flint is gonna flip" "Venom is gonna show up" "Otto's chip is gonna malfunction" "Damage control is gonna storm the apartment and ruin everything" "Strange is gonna turn up and ruin everything" "Mysterio?"

Tom actually said there was about 30 or so versions of Dafoe's speech and he said every one of them was scary as hell and left everyone in the room creeped out cause Dafoe was so in character. I wish we got some extra ones of those on the 4K blu ray

Green Goblin laughing maniacally while Spidey punches him shows me why Dafoe would be great as The Joker

This fight was freaking amazing, Goblin is the best Spider-man villain, but I also love their second fight, when BLOODLUSTED Spider-Man beat the shit out of him. And yeah, Goblin lost that fight, but he almost made Peter a murderer. Exactly what he wanted. Great dynamic.

Actually, by the way Peter says “I know”, I’m still assuming Ben may have existed in this universe as well. Peter may have heard those words already and May’s just reminding him of them. Otherwise, why would he have been a hero up until now? We know from his introduction in Civil War that there’s way more to it than just idolizing the Avengers.

This movie had the best representation of Peter’s spidey-sense since The Amazing Spider-Man 2. FFH had some decent moments, but this movie knocked it out of the park with the sound design and the disorienting camera movement. It creates a sense of anxiety and really puts the viewer in Peter’s headspace.

Inaction is what got Uncle Ben killed with the previous 2 Spider-Men. Action is what gets Aunt May killed in NWH. I think that reversal is a brilliant parallel. With the previous 2, it was the loss of Uncle Ben that made Peter want to take action. But in NWH, it is the loss of Aunt May that makes him want to give up.

I still can’t believe (in my opinion) that they made green goblin even better than in the original film. He’s genuinely scary here

The way Green Goblin laughed even when Peter was punching the shit outta him just sent chills man

No Way Home really defined May as a character compared to the previous Home films. Her development in this movie putting Peter on the right path was great, and made her death all the more impactful. The Apartment fight scene still gives me chills with how it’s executed, and I wish the same quality could’ve been applied to the Spider-men scenes. Though I understand the reason for that was to keep it secret, but I won’t deny the choppiness of takes in between each Spider-Man line.

Update: Norman’s serum simply wasn’t finished, that’s why it didn’t work. Personally I prefer the reasonings I gave in the video, one would mean he was always manipulating the serum in secret, the other would give Tobey Peter more meaning as he would help develop an actual working Goblin serum along with Tom Peter. But oh well.