My worst Warhammer Experience

Almost every single terrain-builder video out there: You want your terrain to look good, but not to outshine your minis because they´re the stars of the show...

So that’s the reason why I’m so fascinated by Oldhammer! Back then it’s more about “go build something fun” less “buy this official plastic spur”. And they have cardboard terrain!

Definitely with you on keeping the details on a separate sprue. It solves so many issues with the terrain from ability to paint it, customization (so you don’t clearly see that this is the third iteration of wall 1A on the board), and hedging off the 3rd party retailers. Heck, GW could even sell the detail sprue as a stand alone kit. I really see no downside with this

I'd bloody love if GW did this. They could even sell the greebles sprue separately and it'd sell like hot cakes.

Painting Battletech miniatures has been such a breath of fresh air. All you have to do is block in the primary and secondary colors of a mech, the cockpit glass, and all the metal details such as weapons, jump jets, and actuators.

This is why I love old hand modeled minis, they don't feel like a 3D model from a videogame exported to real life, but like actual sculptures. There is less detail creep and more expression.

🤔 Pretty sure there's a scene in The Inferno where Dante walks past souls damned to paint GW terrain to Golden Demon standards for all eternity without using airbrushes, washes, or contrast paints and most are still working on their first piece. I'm with you on the separate detail sprues! They make plenty of fiddly bits for the minis so why not terrain too? Great idea!

My most miserable expirience is painting a 1k points Thousand Sons army, and painting 1k points of new Cadians. Tsons because of the god damn trim and Cadians because of detail creep. New Shock Troopers have so much little details, pouches, holsters and stuff. Previously when I painted a Cadian Shock Trooper it took me about 30 minutes to paint one to a tabletop standard. Now it takes me more than an hour. It was mentally draining.

i find myself more and more coming back to your videos, keep up the good work, thank you

i painted about 7,000 points of warhammer fantasy High Elves, and enjoyed most of it. The worst unit to paint was the Lothern Sea Guard, which were also one of the newest kits in the range and consequently much more detailed. It's sad that the newer, more detailed models are ironically less enjoyable to paint. Sometimes less is more- GW needs to get the memo on this!

Another benefit to keeping those recesses on a separate sprue, it means the hobbyist gets to choose if there's windows or no windows in their terrain. Windows have been a contentious topic in the gaming section of the hobby before. It has to do with line of sight and if the windows which are purely for aesthetics on some terrain pieces also allow for LOS. Being able to plug those holes at will solves all that and simplifies what should be classified as obscuring terrain and what shouldn't. And like you said, it's not like GW didn't know how to do that because that's pretty much how the doors work.

If I’m honest I am happy with the printed cardboard terrain. Detail creep is frustrating on miniatures though. Painting the Bretonnian men at arms or Mantics halflings has been a true joy.

I'm happier with cheap flat MDF walls. Better to have a few standout centrepieces than trying to have every piece of terrain draw the eye

This is why i prefer frostgrave, Oathmark, Stargrave and a few other minis, there's enougn details to signify what they're representing (weapons and armour and stuff) but there aren't rivets on armour or safety switches on guns. If we want that on a special character or something we'll paint it ourselves

I painted mine to similar level as well, two sets, a full game board :) A nightmare at the beginning, a fun experience when I figured out a system that worked for me frustration-free :) Amazing work <3

The level of detail on GW's Space Marines crept up over the years. When they released the Primaris Marines many complained about how they were too plain. Lately, GW has been introducing larger upgrade kits. Now people will complain about the cost of the upgrade kits. I prefer having relatively plain line troops and more detailed characters. For my Gallowdark terrain, I am considering using a dimly lit approach using a black base, red drybrush and orange drybrush on the various sculpted light sources. My thinking is that only the barest minimum of emergency lighting remains. Limiting my color palette will speed up the work. I am looking for playable terrain that provides a good backdrop for my minis. Alternately I could go for green tones with yellow for the light sources for something resembling a night vision feel. With just two boxes of the walls plus the Soulshackle add-ons it will still be a big project due to having to mask all the connection points. I hope I bought enough masking tape.

I love the idea of additional details bruise instead of The current one size fits all approach. They definitely should already be doing that for the price they are charging; especially considering it's what they used to do!

I really like your idea about greebly sprues. That would give both camps what they want, and open up for somem really interesting conversions too! The greeblys could be sold separately, thus making the standard box cheaper but still have the potential to increase sales when people buy greeblys for their other projects too!

The insane amount of unnecessary detail on GW minis could be one of the reasons why they are so bloody expensive. I prefer using the older models from the 90s and early 2000s. However, on the rare occasion when I buy a modernhammer miniature, I always remove details I deem unnecessary. For example, on a regular space marine I remove all the panel lines from the armour plates so that all the armour is a flat smooth surface. In the case of Abaddon I removed all the spikes and teeth from his armour, and some of the cabling that were under his arms. I also modified all of his chaos trim to look more like the classic chaos trim from the older chaos models.

It must be happening because they don't do it by hand for a LONG time now. Once they made a 3D sculpt they probably just click a button and a CAD programm cuts it up automatically. Look closer at the sprues. It can be baffling how unfriendly to the consumer some of the builds are. Most times, not a single QA pass was made to account for ease of build, people who kitbash, people who magnetize. I convert and kitbash a lot (a lot) and I've been noticing it for a long time. They must have less than a dozen people working on all of it and their competence is uneven to say the least (Desolation Marines anyone?).