Symbolism in Religion, Art, and Pop Culture | Jonathan Pageau | EP 89

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Published 2024-06-12
This episode was recorded on November 14th, 2023.

Jonathan Pageau is a French Canadian symbolic thinker, YouTuber, editor of the Orthodox Arts Journal, an eastern orthodox icon carver extraordinaire, and explorer of how (underlying) symbolic patterns emerge, develop, and finally manifest in religion, art, pop culture, etc.

Find more from Jonathan:
YouTube:    / @jonathanpageau  
Instagram: instagram.com/jonathan.pageau
Speaking: www.thesymbolicworld.com 
Carving: www.pageaucarvings.com 
Writing: www.orthodoxartsjournal.org 

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— Chapters —
00:00 - Coming Up
01:32 - Introducing Postmodernism
04:20 - Critique of Stephen Hicks' Interpretation
07:15 - The Enlightenment and Rationalism's Limits
10:43 - Postmodernism's Reaction to Enlightenment Failures
13:56 - Postmodernism's Purpose and Consequences
17:22 - The Role of Social Media in Modern Fragmentation
21:32 - The Impact of Technology on Education and Social Structures
25:13 - The Dilemma of Homeschooling vs. State Education
29:00 - Covid-19's Impact on Social and Political Dynamics
32:45 - The Future of Authoritarianism and Individual Freedom
36:00 - Postmodernism in Education and Identity Politics
39:33 - Balancing Ideals and Reality

All Comments (21)
  • I normally don't leave comments, but I just wanted to say that as a young man who is now converting to christianity, I've never clicked on a video faster. Jonathan's videos opened the door for me to come to Christ. And Tammy, more than anyone else, seeing how you and Jordan Peterson conduct yourselves has shown me that healthy relationships are possible, and as someone who came from a very broken home, it's given me something to strive towards being a part of in the future. Thank you both for the inspiration, it's helped me greatly.
  • So beautiful! Let’s love each other, tell the truth, and keep our small worlds as lovely as possible.
  • Thank you for this insightful conversation. As a sidenote: I am always impressed by Jonathan's seeming joy or enthusiasm (or whatever it is that makes his eyes and face shine) even when talking about what he believes will be apocalyptic times ahead of us. I noticed this many times, and to me it speaks of a deep sort of courage and inner peace that I do not quite understand but certainly admire and long for.
  • @greenbank4800
    I love the way Tammy brings the human impact into the conversation and Jonathon lays out a wider impact that has resulted in the negative impact on families, communities and the possible long term outcomes. Brilliant joint effort. Thank you to both of you.
  • @MartinaStC
    Tammy, you're looking wonderful, there's light coming from you. Praise be to God x
  • 15 minutes in and Jonathan's clarity of insight to see things fitting together as different notes of a whole story with roots in history is amazing
  • @TayoBiz
    Thank you Tammy and Jonathan! Making a video essay about postmodernism and the impact and this was a well rounded representation 👌👌
  • @user-dd8cq6pl3h
    Wonderful talk! Thank you Tammy Johnathan for sharing your ideas. I do believe we all can contribute to the much better future , when we have understanding of what is going on, when we have good social networking and when we realize what is at stake. I do hope Jesus is leading us through these difficult times for some reason. God bless you!
  • @regards7229
    Thank you Tammy, for bringing us these great conversations. 🙏
  • @DepthDiveBB
    3:30 you’re describing the last twenty years of my life so well. Thank God that through your husband, Mr. Pageau, and others, I found Christ and joining the EO. The shifts within me are nothing short of miraculous. Literally saved from the jaws of eternal darkness and separation from God.
  • @itsHeatherKay
    Tammy, I love that you have your own channel! I love your family so much. And Jonathan too.
  • @scoutxyz2828
    Happy Father's day Jonathan the love of your family means a lot.
  • @giaatta9303
    Great subject. Very interesting with his insights and perspectives. Thanks Tammy!
  • @MrMarccj
    As a teenager I'd travel about an hour every Saturday to our 'spot', knowing some friends would be there. We didn't call each other, we simply met up. We were into rock so our 'spot' was outside the then famous record shop 'Shades' in London. We'd have no idea how the day would go and we could end up anywhere in London. Just friends having fun.
  • @donovan665
    Marshall McLuhan pointed out in the 50s that electronic media turns everybody in to signals, disembodied presences in others rooms. This creates for humans an energetic self able to be in more than one place at a time, thus superheroes and superpowers. He said this would confuse us over our identity creating glabal village, parochial groups alienated from others. This situation can be read quite differently.
  • @user-vs9jf8yg7p
    So validating. He is saying things I have been shouting from the rooftops for years now with regard to post modernism and the enlightenment.
  • Just saw you guys in CT on Tuesday. What a nice surprise seeing Jonathan there! Another great seminar; thank you so much for visiting!
  • @urantiawisdom
    "Truth often becomes confusing and even misleading when it is dismembered, segregated, isolated, and too much analyzed. Living truth teaches the truth seeker aright only when it is embraced in wholeness and as a living spiritual reality, not as a fact of material science or an inspiration of intervening art. Religion is the revelation to man of his divine and eternal destiny. Religion is a purely personal and spiritual experience and must forever be distinguished from man’s other high forms of thought, such as: 1. Man’s logical attitude toward the things of material reality. 2. Man’s aesthetic appreciation of beauty contrasted with ugliness. 3. Man’s ethical recognition of social obligations and political duty. 4. Even man’s sense of human morality is not, in and of itself, religious." The Urantia Book, Paper 195, Section 5. Thank you, Tammy Peterson and Jonathan Pageau. God bless you both!
  • Welcome home Tammy! I saw you twice in Melbourne when you came down under. If you see this, pray for my wife as I pray for your husband, both of whom remain outside the Catholic Church at this time. Thank you for everything you have done to support Jordan over the years, as a wife, a mother and moral support. I would have struggled to come back to faith and the Catholic Church without Jordan helping me over the years.