BATMAN FOREVER + BATMAN & ROBIN - So Bad They're Legendary

On set Joel Schumacher kept yelling out before each take “remember it’s a comic” to make sure that it stayed goofy

After hearing Joel Schumacher decided to take the blame for it and not let the crew get hurt by the press though he made a bad movie I think it’s commendable that he defends the people who worked on it and takes the bullet so no one else does

Elvis completely skipping over the fact that when Bane was planting the bombs he'd literally say "bomb" after putting down each one. I still giggle watching that.

I do absolutely love the aesthetic of these movies. It is so overdramtic and cool looking. Every scene looks like a 80s music video.

Just to give you an idea of how derpy Batman Forever was, my 1995 dad wouldn’t allow me to mimic Riddler Jim Carrey because it was “too gay” at the time. It was a glorious time to be rebellious.

"What killed the dinosaurs? THE ICE AGE!" Is such a dumb line, delivered so perfectly. I mean, that's just factually wrong, Mr. Freeze. Can't just take credit for the work that asteroid did.

As a kid, my mom didn't let me watch any batman films... except for these two. She didn't have a real reason why she didn't let me watch Dark Knight or the Tim Burtons, but I just watched these two the most. They may be dumpster fires, but damn are they kinda nostalgic.

RIP Joel, despite the criticisms, you did what you loved and did it in you're own style. Have to respect that.

I think WB was lucky that Batman: The Animated Series and Batman Beyond were on the air to preserve the franchise while the movies went downhill and they kept Batman out of theaters for 8 years.

The 90s Batman movies are like the old Superman movies. First two are decent, third one takes a huge nose dive, fourth one is an absolute mess.

I think I was about 8 when I saw it in the cinema and the scene where Robin hung his clothes up to dry was the most memorable part and it had a real effect on me at the time. I was always a messy kid and oblivious to the benefits of tidying up but I also always harboured a secret fear of losing my family and used to have nightmares about it. The scene comes after Robin loses his family, and he shows Alfred that he's independent and capable and still moving forward just when he's being looked at as a victim. 8 year old me was very proud of him and the memory became a small touchstone for a developing mind and I hoped that I could be that strong and just carry on getting little things done for myself and survive if I found myself alone in the world. Being more present and more tidy and organised and doing inane things for myself because they needed doing helped to make me more capable of dealing with the dreams.

"This is why Superman works alone." Dude just casually confirmed a shared universe and nobody bats an eye.

As goofy as it is, I always get a little misty-eyed whenever Freeze takes out the glowing vials and says, "Take two of these, and call me in the morning." His love for his wife Nora and his desperation to find a cure for her disease are the only additions to his lore that no adaption, no matter how stupid, could ruin.

Bob Kane is not the real creator of Batman. He made the name and idea of a guy in a suit, which was a red suit with a domino mask and actual bat wings. The real creator is Bill Finger, he made the real lore behind Batman- the suit, the gadgets, the city, all of the stuff we've come to know, love, and associate with Batman. Bill never gets the credit he deserves

For all the problems these movies had, as ive gotten older i can appreciate them more - i love this version of gotham with all the weird art deco neon light shit going on, i love the hammy acting and how over the top it all is

The scenes between Jim Carrey and TLJ are even better when you know it was just a giant pissing contest between the two of trying to one-up each other.

I think the reason Alfred liked the new robin so much is cause Alfred is an insane workaholic and he took one look at that weird goblin manchild and said "Yes, I'll be busy for YEARS cleaning up after this one". Edit - "Don't fret, I'll always have something in the works" Is both threatening AND reassuring.

I love how villains had escape contraptions built into places they don't own. Like did he have a construction/engineering crew in there a month earlier building an explosive-proof saferoom under the circus arena? It reminds me of that Batman Returns movie where Penguin takes an actual elevator out of the sewers in front of everyone. Who the fuck is building this shit, and even if it was built by someone else previously, how are they controlling it?

This version of Poison Ivy started my love for the character. Her relationship with Harley just solidified it.

I actually like Val Kilmer's Bruce Wayne more, since I always think Wayne is rather cold and jaded billionaire, probably even dead inside. I just thought Clooney's Wayne was too smiley and sweet instead of brooding. Mr. Freeze were really painful, but my oh my Poison Ivy is probably one of the best Batman villain ever IMO!