Why the Miranda and California Class are the BEST ship's in Starfleet | Star Trek

A Miranda class with a cadet crew can take out a Borg cube. Its is obviously the best.

The Miranda class is the Ford Taurus of Starfleet's rental car fleet. It's the outdated, unloved workhorse that nobody likes but gets you where you need to go.

Let's not forgot the unsung heroes of the Oberth class. These brave crews do the work that no one else wants... which is serving on an Oberth class death tra- i mean starship.

Miranda Class has been and always will be my favorite ship class.

I've re-watched that ending scene in lower decks so many times. Honestly, I would love to know what Starfleet Command thought of their entire B-team fleet suddenly warping to one location to take part in a life or death battle with an insane prototype bird of prey. 'They did WHAT?'😆😆😆

I totally agree, I think the Miranda's are very underrated!

I see the Miranda class ships as the cheap, easy and quick to build main ships of Star Fleet. Like you said the work horse of the fleet. With a modular design that allows the Mirandas to be fitted out in any way Star Fleet deems necessary. They are the "most bang for the buck" type ships that can do just about anything. Sure the Constitutions, Exceliors, Galaxies and Sovereigns are more powerful, but they serve a much different role and quite a bit more costly to build and maintain, meaning only so many can be built. Mirandas and Californias on the other hand can be built in droves and are like a cross between a Fletcher class destroyer and Cleveland class light cruiser. The U.S. Navy built 175 Fletcher class destroyers during the World War II, because it was a good platform, fast, heavily armed for a destroyer and tough. The Mirandas seem to be more heavily armed than a Federation type destroyer, and are capable of sailing without needing to be in a squadron or with an escort, but deploy these ships in a squadron, and they are force to be reckoned with. The Miranda is one of my top 3 ships of Star Fleet, the Constitution refits being #1 and the Sovereign class being #2. Never been a fan of Galaxy class, it looks horribly unbalanced and ungainly to me. The Californias are silly looking to me, and that's all I have to say about that.

To sum up...Starfleet is really only as strong as it's weakest link. Their mightiest of ships that are praised and glorified, wouldn't have their legacy live on without the support of ships like the Miranda and Cali. And honestly, I'd love to have seen more of those support vessels, assuming they even existed, from around the TOS era and the Lost era. Designs that the Miranda and, to an extent, the Oberth probably beat out or outright replaced. We got to see lower deckers from other races, an episode covering another time would be cool.

In my head canon. The Miranda class was a replacement for the Walker, Nimitz, Malachowski, and Magee class ships. As those Discovery era starship classes proved to be hopelessly outmatched in combat during the Klingon - Federation war of 2256. The Miranda was a smaller, yet streamlined battle capable cruiser that would punch above it's weight against Klingon and later on, Romulan threats. Basically, the "Defiant" (DS9) of the 23rd century.

A good light cruiser is vital for any navy, as my time playing naval war games has taught me. Capital ships and heavy cruisers may bring the big guns, but they can't be everywhere at once; while small craft don't have the staying power or range for extended patrols. The light cruiser fills the niche of the patrol ship and general support vessal on a budget.

What about in that massive mid 25th century war of attrition, where California class ships had minor refits to turn them into front line combat ships? A roll bar with torpedo launchers and a War canoe attached under the Saucer.

the Miranda class is always one of my favorites due to its looks, its function, and how it's like Swiss army knife, also Royal Squadron anyone? in my opinion it is really underrated

i liked the look of the miranda and nebula

the miranda outguns the constitution, the excelsior outguns the miranda and not to mention it way outguns the constitution. the t6 variants of the miranda in sto are top notch

I think the Miranda class is very overlooked. It's honestly not given the credit it deserves

As you have seen on Twitter numerous times... We PERSONALLY tow the line for the Cali class ALL DAY LONG! One of our favorite designs! It fits RIGHT where it's needed and does it's job admirably!

Of course. we are all one big, happy fleet!

I love me my workhorse ships of Starfleet. The Miranda is my #1 favorite ship, because it's a ship that isn't designed to be the best, but it's "GOOD" at doing the stuff that other ship aren't around to do. It does the stuff that needs to be done, and still packs a punch. You don't get a ship with over 100+ years of service that isn't doing something right when they made it.

I think that the California Class is a great addition to Star Trek. For me, it is the first Starship that I've really liked. Some have called it ugly but to me the ship looks sleek, harkening back to Kirk's original Enterprise. With The California Class, and specifically The Cerritos, we finally see the kind of ship that should have always been there, a somewhat modest working horse ship that does the less-glamourous jobs. Per this video, it looks like Starfleet wised up about the advantage of specific-purpose ships. In a way, the California Class reminds me a little of the original IBM PC. IIRC, instead of creating a new computer from scratch, IBM just took existing parts off the shelf and put them together to make their first PC. In other YouTube videos they've mentioned that parts like the Warp Core might have been originally designed for another ship and then retro fitted into the California Class (explaining why the Warp Core on The Cerritos looks larger than that on the Enterprise-D). Likewise, missions like Second Contact/Follow Ups are important too, and if it had been implemented earlier the events of "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn" might have happened in a different and less dangerous way. Instead, Starfleet picks up Kahn and his people and transports them to another planet to continue their lives (it might have helped if Kirk had left information about Kahn with Starfleet so they could keep an eye on him). One thing I'd like to see them introduce is a Cargo type of Starship, designed to carry massive amounts of cargo and/or passengers, and also function as a mobile Space Station when needed. So often, it looks like there's little room on a Starship for extra personnel (see ST:TNG Episode "Up the Long Ladder"). For those situations, they create a Starship that is large enough to transport and maintain the population of a large city.

The Miranda is my absolute favorite class of ships.