Everything Wrong With Arrival In 16 Minutes Or Less

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Published 2017-11-28
Arrival was easily one of the best films of 2016, and all of us at CinemaSins just loved it. That being said... no movie is without sin. So...

Thursday: Something terrible from 2017.

Remember, no movie is without sin! Which movie's sins should we expose next?!

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All Comments (21)
  • You know what blew my mind? Ian quoting Louise's book at the beginning and saying that language is the first weapon ever drawn in any conflict. THEN the aliens later say ''offer weapon'' and it turns out they're OFFERING THEIR LANGUAGE
  • @markbonik
    Greenland is an autonomous country withing the Kingdom of Denmark. Soo thats actually accurate in the movie.
  • @lindybeige
    Denmark speaks for Greenland, because Denmark runs Greenland.
  • @RuberDildo
    Saddest part of this movie is that Abbot knew he was going to die all along. Oh yeah, Louise knew her daughter would die too, but I was mainly sad for Abbot xD.
  • @SuperBeanson
    4:02 The reason for this question: she shows the army dude that the other prof. is likely to translate sensitive words (such as this ambiguous Sanskrit word) with a bias toward 'aggressive' meanings. The army dude realises that with this sensitive alien situation they need a translator to be more biased towards 'neutral' translations.
  • @CaptainJdotJdot
    10:27 Greenland is a territory of Denmark. It's not a sin, it's more like another sign of the film's credibility.
  • @thesprawl2361
    Remove many, many, many sins for Max Richter's beyond gorgeous music.
  • At 3:08, the part when Louise asks "how many are speaking" and Forest Whitaker waits to answer is perfect. It expands the reality of the moment. He's a full bird Colonel with discretion on what he can and can not say. If he had immediately answered it would have been him knowing the dialogue. Him taking a moment to weigh the situation, helped immerse me in the moment.
  • Some times I watch cinema sins just so I can watch a shorter version of whatever movie he's reviewing.
  • @Pfhorrest
    10:28 Greenland is a territory of Denmark, so yes, Denmark is representing Greenland, the same way Washington, D.C. would represent America if a shell had landed in Hawaii.
  • @juanchavez1176
    I think one of the most important aspects of this movie was the way it destabilized our understanding of language and context. Ian thought this was a math problem so it became a math problem and Louise thought this was a linguist problem so her mind became synced with the Heptapod’s understanding of time. We fail to grasp the ways our language affects how we think of ideas. The reason future Louise didn’t remember the phone call was because it hadn’t happened yet. Future Louise and Present Louise are both memories of each other simply forgotten until remembered. Future remembered the present just as present remembered the future. Just like the last line was “I’ve forgotten how good it felt to be held by you” despite that being the first time they had hugged. The reason we skip the first interaction is to prepare us for the jarring jumping through time where that meeting has always already occurred.
  • @am3thysts
    Can we just appreciate this movie for not holding your hand? Her translation about the cows showing that she has a neutral bias to translating words in context, but you would have to think carefully to realize it. A lot more “show not tell” than most movies we see these days, like the gravity switching and witnessing scenes with her rather than her explaining them as she walks. Having an actually awesome plot twist and is epic and that most viewers would not see coming.
  • @Bleilo
    10:28 Greenland is actually a part of the Kingdom of Denmark.
  • @Pearl127
    But Greenland is PART of Denmark. Sinning your sins.
  • @lawsonone6015
    1:42 That is literally the way college students act when an alarm goes off. The sin is actually real life. Ding.
  • @JohnRundle09
    @4:15 Forrest doesn't need to know the real translation. He needs someone who understands how language works in relation to a society. Cows were very important to those that spoke Sanskrit. This example demonstrates a theory that is the basis for the whole movie. Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis: that a language influences how its speakers perceive the world. Once she speaks in their language it changes how she perceives the world (and time).
  • @robotraptor3369
    great film. in case anyones wondering , the line loiuse says to the general in chinese translates to "in war there are no winners, only widows".
  • I think the fact that he took 3 sins off the film just for how it is, and that so many of the sins are jokes, shows how much he actually likes this film
  • @BoBoZoBo
    Read the short story as well and from what I gather - she is not really living in multiple timelines, she is "remembering" the future. Just like any memory of the past, sometimes it is hard to recall clearly and immediately. Despite the deterministic nature of life, it is still worth experiencing, for the same reason we like to re-watch movies we love, re-read books we enjoy, or re-visit places we know well.