Why Marvel's Spider-Man (2017 Show) is Bad

The fact that this show has more episodes than spectacular Spiderman hurts my soul

I like a young Peter, but I hate that all of the villains are de-aged too

I can’t believe you went the whole review without referencing the fact that instead of just saying the phrase, Uncle Ben gives Peter the formula “Great power is equivalent to great responsibility” on a paper written as “GP = GR”, and that they actually have Doc Ock write it on a white board and treat it like a real equation during the Superior Spider-Man arc

The fact that Disney made two Spider-Man shows with multiple seasons just to try and live up to the hype of Spectacular Spider-Man which only had two seasons really speaks volume.

To Ultimate's credit, J.K Simmons voices Jameson.

Peter in this show feels like fucking Jimmy Neutron, he has to say everything in scientifical terms and basically cause half the problems in this show. It's not the voice actors fault, he did great for what he was given, it's just the writing bad

They tried too hard to make Peter seem nerdy. In the MCU, he mentions wanting to try out for football, but he knows he can't because of his powers. In the Ultimate comics, he was on the basketball team for a short time. In THIS SHOW, Peter thinks "touchdown" is a baseball term, and says "tossing rings" instead of "shooting hoops".

I grew up with this show, it kind of hurts realizing how bad it is. The good thing of having been a child when I watched this show is that critics and opinions of others weren't my problem, I just watched the screen and be like "Hell yeah it's Spiderman"

The biggest turn off for me with this show is the animation it looks so cheap, say what you want about ultimate but at least it looks good, spectacular was both beautifully animated and the storytelling was top notch.

When Flash Thompson starts to become intelligent, you know you f'ed up

Apparently Nadji Jeter voiced Miles in this series. I'm glad Insomniac gave him a better version to work with in the games

12:34 One thing I'm bothered by when it comes to other people getting spider powers is that they all seem to be as capable as Spider-Man, or at least effective enough far too quickly. Spider-Man isn't just a strong guy that crawls on walls and has a danger sense. He's a genius that had to make his own webs, his own costume, and through formal means or otherwise learn how to fight and use his abilities effectively to be a hero. Maybe I'm missing context here, but simply being bitten doesn't give you acrobatic skills without any training and practice. Not sure about the comics, but I suppose it works here since Miles is also a smart guy that goes to the same tech school as Peter. However, with that said it makes him feel more redundant and less distinct, especially in a world where Spider-Man is still very much alive. Yeah, he has invisibility and electrical powers that are unique to him, but those feel tacked on considering they go outside of the spider motif. War Machine having a similar suit to Iron Man but with a higher focus on rapid fire bullet artillery makes sense since there's multiple ways to equip and weaponize a flying suit of metal armour. However, I just can't say the same for giving Spider-Man electricity and invisibility powers since they don't fit as well with the rest of the original powerset. Yes, I know Miles is a comic book creation that existed before this show, and I'll admit I'm not too familiar with his initial run, but these are just the general feelings I have on the character and all these different spider people. And the fact that this show shoves all that in so soon makes it feel like a Marvel show with Spider-Man as the lead instead of a Spider-Man show, if that makes sense.

Not gonna lie I actually really enjoyed ultimate Spider-Man, until I rewatched Spectacular Spider-Man and seen how much of a downgrade it really was. But it was definitely better than this show imo

Marvels Spider-Man: uses mathematics and equations to simply throw a bomb. Spectacular Spider-Man: just throws a bomb. Simple as that

I think that the biggest problem with this iteration of Spider-Man is that they throw every other Spider-themed character into the mix way too fast. Especially Miles Morales. When Miles Morales gets spider-powers, it is distinctly stated that Peter has had powers for about 3 months. That’s problematic because Peter is supposed to have way more experience than Miles. Their relationship just works better. I mean, just look at Into the Spiderverse. Or Spider-Man PS4/ Miles Morales. In both instances you have a Miles who is far less experienced than Peter. In my opinion, if Peter is going to be alive at the same time that Miles is Spider-Man, they need to have a Master and Apprentice relationship. This mainly has to do with Peter being a super COMPETENT hero (not perfect, but competent), and Miles looking up to him because of that. In 2017 Spider-Man, nobody respects Peter’s Spidey. The only thing that makes him stand out against everyone else, besides the fact that he’s there main character so he’s obligated to be in every episode, is that he was the fist to get spider themed powers. That’s it. Everyone else is smarter than him and almost definitely more qualified. Well. There’s my rant on this show and kinda Spider-Man as a whole. I wonder how many people will get to the bottom of this comment.

The 3D environments always took me out of it. The nonexistent shading on the environments felt lacking and make the characters look like they were gliding in their environment rather than actually walking in it. I’m okay with the anime-esque aesthetic but it was pretty janky at times.

I don't like ultimate Spiderman, but I can appreciate the fact they went in a new direction to try and keep the spider formula fresh. The 2017 series though, is just atrocious to look at

"And when everyone's super (smart) no one will be "

Marvel's Spiderman may not be a good show to all the Spiderman fans out there, but it does show physical and mental barriers being broken by friendship. What I love about this show is even though Harry was cold to Peter in the beginning after finding out he was the "menace" he hated, even after all that, their friendship remained strong, just like in Ultimate Spiderman. The previous Harry Osborns didn't have strong bonds with their Peters like the two new characters mentioned. In the 90's tv show, Harry starts out as a nice kid, but after his father supposedly dies, he literally gets sent to a mental hospital, reliving the trauma over and over again then crashes his best friend's wedding with MJ for nothing short of revenge. In Spectacular Spiderman, Harry was even more cold to Peter when he saw his best friend hanging out with the popular kids, then stealing all his glory, and took a bottle of goblin infused green liquid inside of it. And he kept drinking it, considering the consequences but not abiding by them. Gwen even noticed it happening and tried to stop him, but he pushed her away and did it over again. Keep in mind that it seemed like they had something when the prom happened. Sadly, that didn't work out. Ultimate Spiderman Harry got the brunt of it, but even after bonding with the symbiote, he still stuck by Peter's side. This one definitely hits the nail on the head for the Parker-Osborn friendship as well. Like I explained, Harry and Peter started out as being friends since they were kids, but after Spider Island and the so-called "death" of his father, they broke it off for a while. And yes, Harry did shut Peter out while he tried healing his father, while Peter tried his best to be there for him. But after Hobgoblin Part 2, when Norman orders him to kill Spiderman, their bond strengthens to the point that Harry doesn't even hesitate to throw down the sword and stay by Peter's side. What makes me smile also is that despite Anya and Gwen's irritation with Peter, they eventually come to respect him, while Miles just trusts him immediately. Battle after battle, including Ock's death, these six have shown they are friends until the end. I do hope that in the future, if we do get a new Spiderman show, it shows more friendship moments like this one, and Ultimate does.❤💙 Thank you for listening to my TED TALK about Spider-Man.🕸

watching him talk about the spot as a nobody hit different now