High Speed Rail From Los Angeles to Phoenix? What Would It Look Like?
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2024-07-20に共有
In this video I will explore what a hypothetical high speed rail route between the Los Angeles and Phoenix metro area might look like, with route analysis, travel time estimates, and cost estimates that will provide a broad idea of what something like this could entail. This is accompanied by renderings in Unreal Engine 5 so that you can SEE what it might look like in the places it would run through. These include Los Angeles, the San Gabriel Valley, Ontario, the San Bernardino Valley, The Coachella Valley, the Sonoran desert, and Phoenix, Arizona.
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"View of the Empire State Building in New York City from the Top of the Rock at 30 Rockefeller Plaza during sunset. The tower was illuminated in green in honor of Climate Week NYC"
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"Different view of the historic Phoenix Union Station built in 1923 and located at 401 W. Harrison St. Phoenix, Az. Listed in the National"
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"The north side of the historic Phoenix Union Station — in Phoenix, Arizona. Former Union Station of the Southern Pacific and Santa Fe Railroads. Designed in the Mission Revival Style, by Peter Kiewit in 1923. A rail station on the National Register of Historic Places."
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Chapters:
0:00 Hey, Its Your Old Pal Lucid Stew Again
0:17 The Metros Involved
2:55 HSR Guiding Principles
3:50 The Setup
4:38 Los Angeles
8:24 The Inland Empire
11:19 San Timoteo Canyon and San Gorgonio Pass
12:28 Coachella Valley
13:44 The Desert
15:05 Phoenix
17:08 Cost Estimation Algorithm
17:47 Brightline West Style Cost
18:02 A Faster Version, More Like CAHSR
25:30 Faster Version Travel Times
26:12 Demand and Comparison to Air Travel
26:58 Faster Version Cost
27:35 Thanks and Up Next
28:00 See You On That Big, Beautiful Freeway!
Topics:
High Speed Rail
HSR
Los Angeles
Phoenix
California
Arizona
Los Angeles International Airport
LAX
Los Angeles Union Station
Port of Long Beach
Port of Los Angeles
Metro
Metrolink
Amtrak
Valley Metro
Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
Phoenix Union Station
Maricopa
The Inland Empire
Ontario International Airport
Coachella Valley
Palm Springs International Airport
Brightline West
Alstom Avelia Liberty
Siemens American Pioneer 220
コメント (21)
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66 billion to connect two of the top 5 largest cities in the country is actually fairly reasonable by American standards. Not to mention the higher speed route east of LA could be used by CAHSR and Brightline west
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Watching this while on a train! The Amtrak Wolverine in a new Venture car, to be precise!
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We don't deserve you. You do such good work and you adding animation and this 3d visual has really set you apart and make me realize that so many projects are doable if we just spend the money and we'd see the benefits for all long and short term. Keep up the great work.
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OMG OMG Lucid Stew! I live in Palm Springs and this would be a GAME CHANGER!!! I soooo wish we had a high-speed rail link to LA. I go so often! Such a good idea.
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This should happen right at the same time as CAHSR Phase 2 - if not even earlier
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The $63 bn will be a worthwhile investment.
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68 billion for the fast version isn't too bad imo. Would love to see potential expansion to Tucson as well
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5:20 lol
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They totally just ripped up MILES of the 10 fwy to widen and build express lanes. When there was a huge trench in the center, I always thought "man - they could TOTALLY put a train in here" - just like the Metrolink line that goes down the 10 just east of LA.
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As someone who drives this route all the time, this is a great idea that seems doable.
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My father does a weekly commute from San Diego county to Phoenix/Sierra vista via driving or flying thru SAN/PHX. If this were built along with the CA HSR phase 2 thru Escondido, he has said he would totally be using rail as an option too
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My only concern is your plan to demolish Union Station. I think with a bit of cleaning up it’d make a beautiful railroad museum or could be used for commuter rail. I think a better location for a new station would be near 38th and Washington. It could be integrated with a connection to the Sky Train making connections to Sky Harbor Airport far more convenient, something I believe is essential because the majority of PHX to LA flights are likely connecting passengers going to other flights. The area is mostly run down industrial uses and parking lots that could be redeveloped into a new Transit Oriented neighborhood. It wouldn’t be significantly farther from Downtown Phoenix and the Light Rail would still allow people to travel to downtown but with Phoenix being so atomized of a city I don’t think Downtown is so important that it needs the stop to be right there. Alternatively those rail yards around 15th and Harrison could be redeveloped and the surrounding area could become a transit oriented neighborhood by moving the surrounding government buildings into new more dense buildings with less parking or parking garages.
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OBSOLETELY FASCINATING HOW U ROUTED THIS, I'M SOLD!!!
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I strongly agree with the high speed (more expensive) version; and, concur that it should connect on to Tucson. Thank you for all the fabulous presentations!
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High Speed Rail 🚈 😎 in The United States 🇺🇸, (ALL) across the Country is here, folks.
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How about high speed rail from Los Angeles to San Fransisco They should try building that
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Love the video, your animations and cost analysis are both top tier! For a new Phoenix rail station, I think continuing along the ROW east to 44th st and building a new station there would provide strong intermodal and transit connections, with the sky train airport connector and light rail station, it would also be important for any future rail connection to Tucson, as the ability to take the train from Tucson or its northern suburbs to fly out of PHX would be a huge draw. Plus, as you said, the existing station building in Phoenix is nothing special and most people don't frequent that area of downtown.
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As a Phoenician, I could absolutely see Brightline West coming here after LV-LA is completed, it makes the most logical sense. I believe the precursor Desert Express had it in its plans as well. I’m actually working (kinda) on a proposal as well for regional/intercity services in Phoenix.
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Dang, I happened to get curious and look at the Palm Springs Amtrak station and... boy, is it bleak. Calling it a station is far higher praise than it deserves.
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can High Speed rail go up steep grades? How to prevent wheel slip on grades? Trains struggle over 4 or 5% on normal tracks.
