What if the Soviet Union Never Formed? | Alternate History

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Published 2022-12-13
In this video I talk about the formation of the Soviet Union, its immediate consequences, and what might have been had the October revolution or coup that resulted in the Bolshevik lead Soviet Union never happened.

In this scenario the Soviet Union never exists, as the provisional government in Moscow survives, making Russia a democracy in the early 20th century with only a reformist socialist movement.

All Comments (21)
  • @eagleowl833
    Wouldn't Canada, Australia, New Zealand and perhaps South Africa and even less likely India still be in the british sphere of influence? Without the second World War, Britain would be much better off and would remain somewhat distant from the USA so the dominions would still look to the UK as their "protector" and india would take longer to declare independence. Also Without the soviet union's funding and supply, the rebellions in africa would take a lot longer to reach what they did in our timeline. So if managed properly, the UK and France would be able to hold onto africa even if its just as a sphere of influence. Plus Portugal would be able to crush the communist revolts in Mozambique and Angola, Castro would also be toppled or never gain power in the first place. Obviously there were more reasons for decolonization other than "angry communists" but without WW2 many of these reasons would be much weaker.
  • Three things about Italy: 1/4th of Libya was Italian in 1940, Italy had the highest birth rate in the 1930s of all European powers, Libya has huge Oil supply, so I see an economic miracle happening in the late 1940s.
  • I feel like there would still be a number of wars leading up until one power utilized atomic weapons. Russia would always seek to reconquer Constantinople either under their own banner or that of an orthodox power in Bulgaria or Greece. This would certainly cause strife amongst the western powers trying to not let Russia grow in strength.
  • If Communism never rises, would the Spanish Civil War still have initiated OTL? The war in our timeline essentially ended up as Communists vs Nationalists with democrats largely pushed to the wayside - without such an important militant leftist group (granted, unions and anarchists would still exist) the initial coup might have been successful enough to avert a large-scale Civil War entirely.
  • Many of the most influential Russian and Polish inteligencia and famous engineers like Sikorsky would have probably stayed in Russia. Many of these people immigrated to the US and were very important in our growth.
  • @spaghettiking7312
    There's a reason I've always said the best timeline is if Roosevelt won in 1912 and brought America into WW1 early. No WW2, no Cold War, a better world.
  • Great video - in all honesty I think Italy would be able to keep Libya or/and Eritrea. Mussolini had plans to italianize Eritrea greatly and Libya already had a huge Italian population. Considering that many Italian Tunisians would move in combined with the Italian birthrate at the time (and libyas oil attracting immigration and commerce) I think Italy wouldn’t fall to revolution. However, I do think a Franco like fall would occur, where after Mussolini’s death it embraces some form of democracy (although I can honestly see the regime lasting longer). Sorry for formatting, mobile.
  • What could also help is the Russian empire having a stronger alliance with the united states of America due to the two having dislike of the British empire during the 1800s.
  • With the Spanish civil war, if it still has the same Leftist groups as it did in our timeline, I don’t see the republic winning, especially without Soviet support. The secular reforms didn’t go over well with the very religious population from what I understand, and the martyrdom of civilians at the hands of Republic forces during the war only further villainised the government.
  • @ladahieno2382
    Well am I glad to see you did post a video this month, congrats on your work friend! P.S. you think you gonna make the second video on time or will we have to wait till new year?
  • @bee-fs3vb
    Till now, for months ever since I started watching your videos I thought you were a big youtuber, until today when I finally looked at the views and subs that you were pretty small. You are greatly underrated in my opinion, I enjoy everything you make. You deserve many more subscribers and I hope you grow and get gifted by the yt algorithm.
  • @MrDylan2125
    I was just thinking it had been awhile since I'd seen a video from you. Welcome back, King.
  • @Xcyiterr
    the better timeline we never had
  • I'm wondering, what would the alternate history of the world be like if Yaroslav the wise kept the Kievan Rus united at his death. Can you please look into this. Thank you. I love your alternative history, gives me something to think about.
  • This reminds me of what Europe would be like if the French revolution never happened