Josh Pate On G5-Only Playoff - Twitter Pushback! (Late Kick Cut)

As a South Alabama fan I would like to point out that the two clips of upsets in that edit you showed were USA's only 2 P5 wins (Miss State 2016, Oklahoma State 2023). First off, they were showing South Alabama specifically because that's who you were talking about, and second, that isn't nearly the flex those people think it is when those are, again, the only two P5 wins we even have. There are FCS teams with more P5 wins than South Alabama. But they play their own playoff because they don't have the resources to compete with FBS. Why should the G5 be the only group of teams in all of collegiate athletics who have zero chance to win any kind of championship?

As a San Jose State fan, I couldn't agree more. Sure, go ahead and play your one or two regular season games against Oregon or USC to bring in money -- but don't pretend you can beat Ole Miss, Michigan, Kansas State and Alabama in a row to win the 12 or 14 team playoff. That would be tough to do on a PS5 playing on Easy mode.

Josh is right. This would give those programs a legitimate championship goal. Look at the FCS. The biggest hurdle is getting people to let go of their pride.

I hope you see this Josh. I'm a proud alumnus of Southern Miss. I have been saying it for years. In MS when people say "oh their a G5" I always ask how they felt when their Alma Mater won a conference title? Oh its not the SEC. Then I say how sad it must be to never know that feeling and that shuts them up. I'd rather have the feeling of winning a G5 playoff than go in knowing there is no chance.

I wouldn’t mind seeing an 8 team G5 playoff in addition to this system though. The highest ranked G5 still makes the “big playoff” 4 G5 champs + 1 G5 runner up of the league in the “big playoff” + 3 G5 at larges. The G5 tournament championship plays the same day prior to the national championship as like an undercard leading up to a headlining fight. So does the FCS natty. “D1 National Championship Saturday” FCS title - morning/noon G5 title - Afternoon CFP title- evening Give college fans some appetizers leading up to a title on a SATURDAY

A NIT/NCAA tournament format for comparable teams based on performance makes perfect sense in basketball but somehow football its seen as degrading. It's insane. I'd much rather watch a NIT/G5 playoff than see a G5 school barely make the current playoff and probably get smoked by Michigan or Georgia or Oregon or any other huge program.

I agree with Josh Pate on this one

Separate but equal, that will probably be the response of many to a separate G5 playoff. Splitting D1 football again, this time into 3 parts. FCS, G5, P4 (soon to be P2/3). G5 gets dropped down to their own play, then Power conferences don't schedule as much, OOC games become less attractive. CFB completes its transformation into NFL-lite. Quality of play drops down. Seeing a draft pick becomes even rarer. It's newsworthy that NMState gets a draft pick, like an FCS, D2 or D3 team today. I would like to see a record of +.500 G5 teams vs +.500P5 teams in the last decade though, just to see the bad teams really drop off

I would actually watch G5 games if there was a G5 playoff..... They would make more viewership nationally just having their own playoff than they get most of the year combined - sort of like how march madness draws insane crowds but only hardcore ish fans actually watch most of the games in CBB now. I agree it'd be a massive boost for your conference/division!

A g5 playoff would garner more interest than the random bowl games these schools go to. It would have to be more profitable.

No one is saying there isn't a massive resource gap. Most of us G5 fans just want to avoid what happened in the 70s split and become FCS 2.0 and sink to THAT level of irrelevance. Look at their attendance and viewership now...

People aren't understand the concept. Josh Pate is trying to safe traditional college football for the G5. In 10-15 years when the BIG TEN and SEC leaves everyone behind for the NFL Model which most college fans dislike they can then turn to the G5 which will be a traditional form of college football.

You’re just early Josh. We are still reeling from the mess that is NIL, Portal, and realignment. Five years from now, G5 fans will beg for a G5 playoff. FCS playoffs are exciting, some fantastic football. Let’s have more post season for more teams. I think you’re on the right track, just may be too much for some fans to digest in the midst of all the other changes.

Josh you just opened up a can of worms I don’t think you meant to open 😂😂

Agree in concept, but Iowa State has about the same chance to win the National title as the G5, so they need a different playoff too?

I just want to see my team play more games. I really enjoyed watching George’s basketball basketball program having an extended life in the national invitational tournament. I know they weren’t good enough to play at the higher level but winning several postseason games elevated the program. They caught the eyes of some potential recruits or transfers.

I love what you do brother! As a fellow G5 follower(App State fan), I couldn’t agree with you more! I think the bowl game system should generalize into a G5 playoff system and stop allowing trash 6-6 teams in a bowl game. The majority of players sit in bowl games anyways. Add a playoff system and they play harder, simple as that

Based on what you're saying a significant amount of teams in each power conference "isn't playing the same sport" as the others (your words). What is the metric for this, is it really stadium sizes and athletic budgets? Is UCF, Cincy, UH not playing the same sport as the rest of the Big 12 (recent G5 teams). Is there a clear point of separation? Do the bottom power teams just automatically stay in the "same sport" category as the successful power programs? While you bring up programs like Washington let me remind you just in 2021 they were below .500 with an FCS loss. Surely, (with the access you have) you don't think the aliens dropped them a remote with a "same sport" button in the following year. Who gets grace? Who doesn't? Are you saying they "play the same sport" because the universities have money? If that's your stance you should be clear and say that.

So with this logic, lower tier power 5 teams should have their own playoff too? There’s a big gap in resources between Alabama and Virginia.

I know Josh is doing this in part to counter those who think he doesn’t give his true opinions when it comes to college football… but I have high doubts that he would speak so frankly about the ACC/BIG12, who suffer under similar conditions when compared to the B1G and SEC.