"Cultural Marxism" and the Frankfurt School

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A quick overview of the Frankfurt school and a response to this odd theory I encountered while researching for the Germans series. There seems to be an idea that this school has had some incredibly powerful influence on contemporary culture. Spoiler alert, no evidence for this. The picture is Herbert Marcuse, likely the best known member of this school in the United States.

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  • I understand your argument. However, indoctrination is usually achieved through the elective courses. There, the ideas of cultural Marxism are dominant. Ie. Electives on gender studies, critical race theory etc.
  • I think it is wrong to try to assess the influence of 'cultural marxism' by comparing total numbers of students in the humanities and social sciences with the overwhelming number of students who never run the risk of being influenced by it (in Stem, economics etc.). The point is that in the field where it can have an influence, it is disproportionately prevalent and manifests some very scary results (see the Lindsay Shepherd scandal for example).
  • @peterz7389
    Most college students in nazi germany in 1933 were studying medicine or tangent stem-related fields, is it safe to say 1933 Germany didn't have a nazi ideology problem even though most people weren't working in or studying this field? A better question would be who primarily dictates these institutions' top-down beliefs and principles and which ideologies seem to have the most influence.
  • If you honestly think none of the coursework in a business major involves any cultural Marxism, you clearly know nothing about those degrees.
  • @Mitia_k
    I suspect you might have heard of the Evergreen incident. This is the kind of stuff that highlights there is something rotten in the state of Denmark.
  • Isn't cultural maxism about taking power over cultural influence? Media, journalism, academic etc and less interested in economics, because once they have cultural power they can enforce the economic change? This was the idea from the original Frankfurt school as i understand. The global worker revolution didn't happen because worker's minds were under the influence of capitalisic culture. So they need to take power over the culture and free the minds of workers so the revolution can happen. So this would explain why they're unconcerned with putting out business degrees. They more concerned with influencing the mind of the graduate. Hence why within many of the degrees you mentioned are courses/ electives that teach 'cultural maxist' ideas.
  • I’m confused. What does someone’s major have to with this? There are such things as prerequisite courses, for starters. And critical theory is a way of framing things, so it can permeate things like business degrees.
  • I’m not sure where you live but I’m a student at Brooklyn College. From what I see on a ground level Marxist thinking both economic and cultural is promoted primarily by a small portion of the far left mostly coming out of the fields you mentioned. I think you underestimate the cultural influence this relatively small group of people are having on the political conversation on an increasingly more mainstream left, specifically through social media. I know countless people who are adopting and promoting the Marxist frame work out of a fear of being called racist or a bigot.
  • What does the term 'cultural marxism' actually mean? How many degrees in the US are economics? Of these economics degrees, how many include marxian economic theory?
  • @kxkxkxkx
    Look at the number of school policies that come out of the XYZ studies department vs say the engineering school for a better metric, imho ...
  • Hey Wes, you should do a few vids on the Scottish Enlightenment
  • Is this the antimarx subreddit? Usually don't see Jordan Peterson viewers in Wes' comments. Must have had the scare word MARXIST in the title lmao
  • @theme542
    I as a business major that just graduated had to write a pro Marxist paper in philosophy and similar papers in sociology and communication ethics and more which were all required
  • @RH-zk8je
    The people who get those degrees tend to have amplified voices. Journalists, scriptwriters, reporters, authors, lawyers, judges, and teachers usually have degrees which fall under the liberal arts and humanities umbrella-- political science, for example. And every major is required to take a few general studies classes. The business people and engineers aren't involved in writing social policies. They obey HR departments and politicians, who take their cues from the intelligentsia. From a Google search of "what do English majors do": "Studying English prepares you for a diverse range of professional fields, including teaching, journalism, law, publishing, medicine, and the fine arts. You can also get jobs in the entertainment, public relations, nonprofit, and even technology fields." (Strangely, they left out waiting tables.)
  • Hey Dr. Cecil, I’ve really enjoyed some of you’re lectures that I’ve listened to, and they have been beneficial to my understanding of the world. I have to disagree with you here though. Cultural Marxism is absolutely prevalent and universities are absolutely spreading it. By cultural Marxism, I mean nothing about the political/economic theory. I mean the idea of the oppressed and the oppressor persisting through history, but in the form of culture. So critical race theory, social justice, the patriarchy, the wave ideas that comes from being “woke” are all a part of cultural Marxism. Personally I went to a small college in Alabama (perhaps the most conservative state) and was an education major for secondary education. I had a class called “multicultural education and diversity”. It was extremely political and indoctrinating. Almost all university students are exposed and taught cultural Marxism in their undergrad classes if not also some of their majors. My intentions are not to call everyone who disagrees with my an idiot. I would just like to present ideas from an opposing view.
  • This video may be technically correct, but only on the premise of pointing out that the theories might be using the term "Cultural Marxism" invalidly. This means that your video doesn't pay attention to their actual concerns and observations, just that the label of "Cultural Marxism" doesn't seem to make sense (at least to the definition you laid out). Which is fine, but kind of not useful. The second substantial part of this video are your counter-arguments to random straw-manned ideas from undisclosed sources. One may contemplate if that is actually a decent and appropriate way to discuss political views, is it even useful? Maybe in a very limited capacity, good enough for a 22 minute rant I guess. I have many objections to almost every argument and example that you try to counter, and also to those that you construct, but here is just one objection (to spare me, because I don't even know if you will read this): At 20:49 you describe how the Frankfurt school was largely economic, and not culturally concerned. To my knowledge that is wrong. Source: https://youtu.be/niiF8hCSrYQ?t=129 - In the video source, it is described how they significantly influenced the ideas of the denazification of Germany. A member of the Frankfurt school, Theodor W. Adorno, coined the term "The Authoritarian Personality Type". Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarian_personality So don't say that the Frankfurt school was mainly economic, even if it was it doesn't mean anything, it's an irrelevant fact. As if it makes sense that mainly focusing on economics would in any way make any other thing unimportant, it's just a fallacious way of thinking. Now, if you're actually willing to learn more about those concerns and observations, I'd suggest that you read up on "Biological Leninism" or "Bioleninism". Here are a video series that describe those concepts: 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZvjNJxzevM 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmroKlAJMsM Those videos basically just read from this article: https://spandrell.com/2018/01/21/leninism-and-bioleninism - So you can just read that if you're not interested in watching or listening to videos. I think this concept is directly relevant to the arguments that you've been countering here, so if you actually care about this I hope you'll watch or listen to them, or read the article.
  • @felipe741
    What? No mention of Gramsci and the slow revolution and the walk through the institutions?
  • Wes, please read James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose's "Cynical Theories." You are understating the influence of these ideas in a MASSIVE way. It's too much to get into in a YouTube comment. Please keep digging on this; I fear you have deeply misunderstood the reach of these ideas and how powerful the influence really is.
  • Henry Giroux Worked with Paulo Freire in the 1980's, and got 100 professors of education tenure across the US. Source - Henry Giroux himself. He's very proud of that accomplishment. Why is this relevant? By the mid '90s, all new K-12 teachers were using Critical Pedagogy in the classroom to teach Postmodern Neo-Marxist theories to children. By 2010, they entered K-12 administration, and by 2015, all of the K-12 education was captured by the Marxists. What is Critical Pedagogy? A Neo-Marxist approach to teaching children.