The Winners and Losers of The Boys Season 4

Wait til Nando realizes her name is Grace Mallory.

I feel like people keep forgetting that everything didn't go to plan for Sage. It just ended up where Sage wanted it.

As a cancer patient, everything with Billy and Kessler worked for me. Knowing your time is limited does have this kind of nihilistic and misanthropic effect on you. Billy's "mission" got him to that point, and this is carrying him the rest of the way.

I really like the "Medusa" theory for Ashley. The metaphoric/actual face-off between "Medusa" and "Poseidon" would be fitting.

As far as Sage goes, the writers actually talked about how difficult it is to write the alleged smartest person in the world when you are fact, not nearly that smart yourself. I think they did a decent job with her character, but I definitely agree they should have shown us a little more about how she impacted the events as they happened.

I had a theory that the reason why Neuman was trying to be friends with Marie in Gen V was she was gonna use her as the scapegoat for all the head poppings. Guess that's not happening.

Things I was expecting: 1. Realising Mallory is Grace's last name 2. Spotting that the cancer in Butcher is an allegory about his attitude towards Supes, and him taking Compound V to come back at the end is all a part of that.

To Sage's credit in terms of her plan being visible to the audience, I feel it was pretty clear she knew A-Train was the leak when she told him "that footage didn't just run itself out of crime analytics".

I think a big part of Sage’s plan at the end of the finale was just getting the speaker of the house on their side so that they didn’t even need Newman. Sage probably realized that Newman isn’t all in with Homelander, and she knew Homelander did not like that Newman kept her powers a secret, so Newman would be easy to throw under the bus, thus getting the speaker of the house on their side became the key fallback of her plan. So it wasn’t like her setting the stones but instead she made key observations and was able to dip out the episode while the plan still worked out.

Laz Alonso didn't just shave his beard, he also lost a lot of weight for health reasons. That why they wrote him not eating enough into the show.

I really like how they continue to circumvent audience expectations of who is going to kill homelander. From Soldier Boy to Ryan to Butcher it always feels so natural and engaging. It almost reminds me of how no one ever really knew who A was in Pretty Little Liars but just wayyyyy more effective!

Shoutout Nando for making grace mallory 2 different people 😭

Ryan killed both of his mother figures, my boy gave himself mommy issues. I don't quite know how to feel about him, specially when we're in countdown to the finals.

I wish we got some line from Sage to help make her plan more plausible. Like something along the lines of, "I didn't know EXACTLY Butcher would kill Neuman, but I predicted that Neuman would want out, and one of the boys would probably kill her." I feel like that would've made the scene more tragic.

I am annoyed that no one is talking about how Homelander didn't hear "Webweaver" when he snuck in with The Boys speaking in his ear and they kept showing how well his hearing is

Agree, MM was defo best member of The Boys this season

I believe there should have been a scene between Newman's death and Sage's return where Homelander takes Sage's notebook and realizes that the plan is unfolding as planned

I want them to hire a game theorist to help write for Sage in the next season. Like, I want her actions to be above my head, but then be able to understand it once the pieces are laid out for me. Genius ish, yo.

He didn't reset Billy. Billy gave the super cancer control of his body.

From what they've set up, it feels like: Ryan will super-fight Homelander (probably helped by the rest of the Seven who've become jaded with him) Solider Boy will depower him (and then probably be the one to recieve the supe virus bullet) Followed by a big regular person fist fight between Butcher and Homey, with Hughie stopping Butcher before he kills him (probably by bringing up Lennie).