Building Better Combat Patrols

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Published 2024-02-27
On this week’s episode, Brad and Eric talk about what makes a combat patrol good and try to fix some of the combat patrols from the past that didn’t quite hit the mark. How to build a discount box that contains everything you need to start an army and have it still be profitable for the company that makes it?

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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
00:59 Our Design Restrictions
05:14 The Anatomy of a Combat Patrol
14:55 Fixing Tyranids!
20:18 Fixing Orks!
26:08 Fixing Astra Imperial Militarum Guard!
37:36 Are you Trying to Skip ahead?
38:09 Book Club: The Fall of Cadia
38:42 Outro

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All Comments (21)
  • @wjpjr7854
    Death Guard Combat Patrol: 1x Typhus 80x Poxwalker
  • @Humanshieldthaan
    One of the hilarious things about the AdMech Combat Patrol is that you can add 4 Ironstider Ballistarii to it and it still doesn't break 500 points!
  • @MrLukeviolin
    “Now one important note is that these are for beginners” Eric: “so this kit is built around kitbashing”
  • @LordCrate-du8zm
    Oh boy! I can’t wait for the reworked Custodes Combat Patrol: - Five Custodian Guard - Five Sisters of Silence - One Blade Champion
  • @Hello-bp8dx
    I really like the guard list but I would change one thing about it: for just a measly 25 extra points you could swap the Wyvern for a Basilisk and give the list an artillery piece that’s actually useful.
  • @elpokitolama
    Me: can't wait to see how they try to fix admech's combat patrol! Brad&Eric: meme of the dude putting a hand on my shoulder
  • @Barrlounge
    I 100% think you should do a full episode on this again, every army. Because even if you're not making an actual Combat Patrol, this is definitely a great topic to have as a "don't like the Combat Patrol box? Here's one you can make yourself. Lose out on the discount sure but at least it's better than what you got!"
  • @milkloaf6563
    poorhammer really went: ''fine, ill do it myself"" and actually did it better then a billion dollar company
  • I'm a simple man, i see a poorhamer upload. I like it. I watch it, then i listen to the podcast version to hear the additional funny.
  • @unrandomman3946
    You know what combat patrols could really use, battleplans. A quick rundown on how to play the army would really help new players.
  • @skyeranger
    31:45 - one has to say here that yes, in the lore the Hydra is anti-air, but in the current rules it is ANTI-FLY, which means it works against everything that flies: Aircraft, flyers, skimmers, barges, nearly all Eldar vehicles and tanks, Marines with jumppacks, Gargoyles, Angron ... everything that has the FLY keyword.
  • @annaleas2091
    my local hobby group was actually talking about doing something similar! Do a small 500 point beginners-tourney, but make your own combat patrol! we added restrictions like only one monster/vehicle/walker in a list and no individual unit over 250 points. We also excluded primarchs and named characters. folks came up with some really great lists! :)
  • @SockimusPrime
    Not only do Ogryns and Bullgryns build from the same kit, but you can also build one as either a Bullgryn Bodyguard, or Nork Deddog - a named Bullgryn character.
  • @richardpearce234
    So IG does have a generic no name single model HQ in the Cadian Castellan. If you were to swap the Command Squad for a Castellan, then you could switch the Wyvern for a Chimera and all the troopers could ride in it. 3 sets of this and a pair of Basilisks would be an incredible start to a mechanized guard army. Edit: this may be too much plastic, since they combined the two Russ boxes that tank is a tonne of plastic. You get a tank and a half in every box if they want to include all the cannons, because of how the sprues are laid out. That said, you could cut the old Demolisher sprue and only give half the options to save space. Upside, no chode, downside, no plasma.
  • @blondedom7426
    Definitely needs part two, with Space Wolves and Leagues of Votann
  • @Axquirix
    Ogryns and Bullgryns are the same kit: I bought 2 of it to build ogryns and bought a box of 6 Ogor Maneaters (cheaper than even 3 ogryns let alone 6) to kitbash the Bullgryn bits onto. Took a lot of sawing and greenstuffing, but worked like a charm!
  • @SockimusPrime
    Also, I’ve started listening to the Fall of Cadia audiobook. I immediately hated every voice the narrator chose for every character. So I looked up what other audiobooks he did, and saw he was the guy who did the Ahriman books as well. Haven’t listened to those, but I do remember Brad giving his thoughts on that performance.
  • @graycube
    I definitely would love this as a series. Would love to see Death Guard, Chaos Daemons and I would find it funny if they made a chaos knights combat patrol that is just the wardog box with an extra wardog.
  • @rickrivers2021
    That Ork list is almost exactly the next things I bought after the Combat Patrol when I got into the faction lol
  • I think the Guard CP (your version) could be improved by replacing the hydra with another cadian squad and a sentinel. You need at least 60 infantry (imo) for a good guard list minimum