Pokémon Went TOO FAR?

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I would like to point out in US and UM Lusamine calmed down after seeing the might of Necrozma but when you enter the room to fight Giovanni in the after story ( where you fought Lusamine ) all the Pokémon are still frozen soooo….. yeah.😂

I like the detail during the Mother Beast fight that all of Lusamine’s Pokémon have recovery moves. Clefable’s got Moonlight, I think Milotic had Aqua Ring or Recover, and the others had similar moves. It’s meant to evoke this idea of perpetuation; that she doesn’t want the high from Nihilego’s toxins and her studies of the Ultra Beasts to end. If it ends, then she feels like she’ll lose the last connection she has to her late husband, Mohn.

Dang no one ever mentioned how good the story was and the animation is really good

The fact Lusamine doesn't care if she abandoned her children, Doesn't care if Nebby dies l, just for the sakes of opening a ultra wormhole. Leave me wondering that this woman is beyond psychopath

Lusamine is such an interesting character and one of the best executed antagonists in the series in my opinion. I'm really, really enjoying these introspections you've started doing for the villainous characters, I'd absolutely be down to see more of them. Love your editing, too (never has Zekrom looked this terrifying before, oml)!

I truly LOVED experiencing Pokemon Sun. It was my gateway back into Pokemon after leaving it off with Black. The story was very well done, the animation was impressive, the concept of Ultra Beasts is still to this day very interesting, and Mimikyu exists! Definitely a 9/10 game overall!

To this very day, Nihilego’s cry puts me into fight-or-flight mode. Since Pokémon Sun was my first ever Pokémon game, the story still sticks with me, and I tend to come back to it and think about it a lot.

I quite enjoyed the post-game Team Rainbow Rocket plotline in Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon, but I wonder if there was one thing that may have been missing. I mean, imagine a surprise twist where Lusamine from the Sun & Moon timeline (or rather from an alt timeline of the original Sun & Moon where she had won) was now secretly working closely alongside Rainbow Rocket's Giovanni and was the actual final boss following Giovanni's battle and her other, (perhaps less malevolent & less crazy) self from the Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon timeline meet and is disgusted by her evil other-self from that timeline...? (Now imagine what would happen if Nihilego attached itself to... Nemona from Scarlet & Violet..!?, lol)

There is always one messed up thing in a Pokemon game. In Kanto you have Lavender Town. In Johto, Raikou Entei and Suicune were apparently reincarnated by Ho-oh. In Hoeen, the teams went from just stealing Pokemon to wanting to cause a flood/drought of the entire region. In Sinnoh, you are trying to stop time and space from collapsing. In Kalos, you literally had a World War Pokemon WHERE YOU VISIT THEIR GRAVES!

This is really well written Pokemon antagonist. It starts with personal tragedy, and then it leads further into the darkness (I don't think that even Pokemon Special manga was so bold with her). In case of her final form the game devs did take some inspiration from the Pokemon Reburst manga (it's not very popular take on pokemon, but personally I like it). PS. The fandom really did make a lot of crazy fanart of Lumine and Nihilego.

Lusamine is by far the Most terrifying villain in pokemon. Nothing is more dangerous than an angered mother. She still gives me chills

She’s literally a PG version of Ragyo from Kill La Kill. I hear her villain theme every time Lusamine appears on screen

Lusamine is very different in USUM, and SM and in the anime. In the anime she is a caring mother that eventually falls to Nihiliego but the Type Null situation was done only by one of her subordinates. In USUM, I believe she is a still caring mother, but since Necrozma might destroy Alola, for fear off losing more people beloved to her, she takes the villain's route, she not exactly evil but she takes the whole burden for herself. Guzma is not hired but actually respects her. I have not played SM, I only have seen parts of the story, but having such a great detail in analyzing the character is very cool. Lusamine is so different in both games. This is a person that lost her marbles because of a toxin, and people could not stop her until MC arrives. I personally like USUM more. Although SM Lusamine can be a great villain and a great analyzation of ID, Super Ego and Ego, Lusamine is not the only character that takes most of the development or has to run the whole plot o revolve around it. Guzma and team skull are not just some gang, they are a group of rejects whom Guzma give a place to belong. Lilie becomes more courageous and you can see to the point of challenging you as one of the possible trainers when you defend your title as a Champion. Lusamine does not have to be evil or have lost her mind, she can still have her mental faculty, and her goals have a lot of bias of her taking over everything because of the loss of her husband. Also, Necrozma lore and story are very interesting. A being that provided light but was so abused because of its power it became too hurt that it lost its original form. Because of such action, it wants to steal all the light and attack anyone to prevent it to lose its form again. When I fight it, it felt more like a beast that could not trust humanity again. So it not only t felt like I was attacking a monster with all my might, but this monster was doing the same. A lot of characters get developed in USUM, even many members of Team Skull. And I really like that. And once again, I like that Necrozma was not some big bad, it was fighting us at its best because of trauma, rage, and also fear of losing its form once again. Although the frozen Pokemon in USUM...it kind of makes sense now. Given how they play Lusamine throughout the story in USUM, the frozen Pokemon did not make sense to me. I was always confused about it and how they gloss over it and no one mentions it ever again or Lusamine does not show such hobbies again or says she stop doing that. I see this as a leftover from SM. A cool scene that took some time to make in the battle before she goes in the Wormhole with Guzma to defeat Necrozma and save Alola. I think they just though it took more effort to take away, and it could be a nice Easter egg from SM. I will say it, SM's Lusamine character does sound like a great trip, and at the same time one of the great differences in story and character. Even in Yellow, Crystal, Emerald, and Platinum did not had such a great change in story and characters in the third version. I say characters because Guzma is not just some underling. He respects and admires Lusamine, and wants to save Alola with her. Since I did not play SM and only saw parts of the story, besides Lusamine, I cannot say if SM, has the exact way as the characters play out. For one I do not think SM Guzma and USM Guzma are the same. Hau and Gladion I do not think they change that much. I think Lillie becomes more courageous in my opinion that is clouded by not having played the first game. Pretty much the majority of the characters with the exception of some team Skull members, Guzma, and Lusamine are the same (from the ones that SM and USUM share).

A small detail in Lusime's last battle, all of her pokemon look angry, except for Bewear

I think it’s fitting that she has a bewear on her team. IT’s described in the Pokédex as being strong enough to break people’s spines with hugs. Like Lusamine, their “love” destroys all they care about.

I actually appreciated the darkness covered in the series.

I wished Lusamine would have been in the Master’s 8 Tournament, I would have love to see a match beteeen her and Cinthia or Diantha.

I loved how Pokémon tried radically insane villains, starting off slow with Archie and Maxie, then moving to Cyrus whose goals slowly became more outlandish, to Ghetsis who was the classical manipulator and lying villain who just wants to watch the world burn, then Lysandre who had so much wasted potential but essentially wanted to nuke a city to preserve its beauty (stupid thought process ik), but Lusamine really filled in where Lysandre failed showing valid motivation for her actions. I hope Pokémon does better than their most recent villains because apart from Sada/Turo, their recent team leaders and antagonists have been underwhelming and ün intimidating compared to past villains.

I was really disappointed they removed some of her development in USUM