Christian revival: Fantasy or reality? - UnHerd LIVE

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Published 2024-05-14
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With recent examples of high-profile atheists publicly converting to religious faith, or aligning with ‘cultural Christianity’, it seems the tide might be turning against secularism in Britain and America. But do stars of the rationalist movement finding faith mark a greater social shift? Joining UnHerd to discuss this very question are presenter of ‘The Surprising Rebirth Of Belief In God’ podcast Justin Brierley, host of ‘The Sacred’ Elizabeth Oldfield and Alex O’Connor, otherwise known as the ‘Cosmic Skeptic’.

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All Comments (21)
  • @rightmatt
    Christian here. Alex is listening and trying to be fair. Not easy. It's appreciated.
  • @0ucantstopme034
    THIS is what I love about YouTube, to be able to "sit in" on conversations like this.
  • @cachinnation448
    I'm a Christian, but Alex O'Connor is such a brilliant speaker/thinker. I love him.
  • @muldererick
    Christian here. What Alex O'Conner says about political Christianity as a reaction to what the 1st world experience in immigration etc. is absolutely true. Christians should not blindly rejoice in this "turn". If it is a purely secular reaction to raise the flag of "Christian Culture" opposed to radical change, it could have terrible ramifications if it is only populist reaction to change.
  • @redinvader
    Alex is correct - the revival is mostly political.
  • @FIGBVB
    Maybe it's just me but Ms. Oldfield sounds rather preachy and her whole argument is to sacrifice your rationality and try it
  • @johnfoster4300
    All I'm hearing is that people want community. You can have that with out religion.
  • @nokeo08
    Every single time that lady talks she sounds like she's about to cry
  • @oftenincorrect
    Situation A: a person is receiving comfort directly from the Holy Spirit. Situation B: a person has convinced themselves that they are receiving comfort from the Holy Spirit, but they actually aren’t. How could we tell these two situation apart?
  • @lubamovie5841
    You could easily make these chats 3hours or thereabouts. You do a wonderful job of them and there's a real appetite for it now. People are ready, willing and able to listen to what others have to say about these kinds of complex and fascinating topics. Thank you Freddie and the Unherd team. You are doing really wonderful work, especially of late, I think.
  • G. K. Chesterton - "On five occasions in history the Church has gone to the dogs, but on each occasion, it was the dogs that died." Maybe we are looking at the 6th dog not looking well?
  • @antonia6059
    I’ve been a church going, homeschooling, homemaker over the last 15 years. And I definitely notice a difference in the way people respond to me. They are much more positive and open minded. I used to get eyeballs people would instantly lose interest in talking to me, and there was even the occasional mocking or critical questions. Now I find people cheering me on, or asking me questions in an open-minded way. Where I used to be called unemployed. Now I’ve been giving the title of Trad-wife. Definitely an upgrade lol
  • @PadreAlan67
    I'm Christian. I respected Alex so much more here than the lady who was spouting "coffee shop Christianity". There is a saying "Biblical Christianity is not popular, and popular Christianity is not biblical." There is a lot of truth in that.
  • @Winnie-Wonka
    A bit concerning when they were talking about how the church should basically rope people in with hopes and dreams, manipulate their emotions to get them hooked, and then explain the rationality later. This is the behaviour of cults.
  • @duncanh95
    ‘A hole shaped god’ is such an underrated put down
  • @shak535
    The girl in the blue is the type of person that helps me stay atheist .
  • @Alex-mj5dv
    A good discussion, Alex was good, as usual. But a heck of a lot of terms that in fact have very distinct and clear meanings were being conflated by panel and audience alike (Alex withstanding). Secular, humanist, woke and liberal. Early on in the Four Horseman discussion at Hitch’s apartment (how long ago does that seem now?! And was it the first long form YouTube video of its kind? Maybe), they made clear definitions of terms and distinctions as they went along, even when each of them were not diametrically opposed in views, they had each their nuances. I remember the numinous, transcendent and paranormal being a key one (celestial as Hitch would have said). I know this was really just a lively, vivacious dinner table chat over a glass of wine, but Liz and Justin particularly got away with a lot here. I would like more rigour for the next one, and I think Alex would too, from Freddie, as moderator, though each did their best given the circumstances and tone of the ‘debate’.
  • @Cowplunk
    I don't find this discussion encouraging at all. The message I got from this is that when people are fearful of the future and untrusting of human authorities, they will turn to magical thinking and superstition instead of doing the work to find real solutions to the problems we face.