AI: Horror, Home and Hope with Jonathan Pageau, John Vervaeke and DC Schindler

When interlocutors have such esteem and respect for one another, it can be difficult to bring up disagreements on deeply held beliefs and still maintain charity. I think this was done in an exemplary way here. Moreover, while the conversation until then had been engaging, this moment of disagreement was desperately needed to establish personal integrity. In other words, it was inevitable that David would have to make it clear that he cannot support something that would be a de facto replacement of Christianity. So both John and David laying their cards on the table was a good thing. It will be interesting to see where things go from here.

Glad to hear I'm not the only one who does the interview prep while giving their kids baths

🎉 Congratulations Ken. Such a wonderful gift to bring new life into the world and especially in this rare leap year!

A group of fine gentlemen who never disappoint. Thank you!

If John really wants theology, he must contend with the words and person of Christ. The reality is that Christ articulates a particular vision of the cosmos that renders other religious traditions, at the very least, incomplete. To ignore this is to ignore Christ, and to forsake this “theological vision” that John has. This must be dealt with without beating around the bush. Lean into the contentious nature of Christ, who comes to bring a sword.

your channel is seriously some of the best stuff out there thanks for having these conversations and sharing them with the rest of us

48:15 - John’s point here is profound, and why my daughters are in a private Christian school and pursuing arts and rhetoric instead of in the public school system pursuing a sales or administrative career. Really enjoy when this conversation flips over to the hope of our scenario, much of which you gentlemen are bringing with your ideas and efforts. Thank you.

Damn, this is so good. Keep it going please and thank you. And congrats on the newest addition to your family.

Thanks for making these happen, Ken♥

This conversation gave me incredible hope. Thank you.

Absolutely wonderful conversation. I enjoyed the first one but this one is far superior. It felt like you were all gelling together and the conversation made me hopeful for the future.

Love this! John’s project is important in part because he lays the groundwork for those especially in the scientific, materialistic frame for seeing & tracking the through line. Christians can declare that Jesus is the through line (and should if they believe it to be true), but the important groundwork/connection work still needs to be done for many.

This is the longest YouTube video I have ever watched, I thought I was just going to watch an hour but I could not turn this off! It's really great to see people get along and listen and enjoy others perspectives. We don't all have to think exactly alike to get along, and really we all have so MUCH more in common than we think. But one thing is certain, we know a lot less about everything than we think we know. So the problem with AI is many of those working on AI think they can control something they don't fully understand yet. And people need to stop comparing it to human intelligence, that to me seems very dangerous, if not for just the fact that we don't even completely understand human Intelligence.

great, thank you all. I listened to the two talks back to back (the advantage on being well behind on all the inspiring talks out there), and it was amazing how you all just jumped into where you left off.

Good discussion on modern philosophical problems. I just subscribed. Looking forward to more great talks!

Congratulations on this wonderful announcement Ken, blessings to you and your family, I'm a month late so forgive my tardiness, just getting started with the podcast and I'll comment after listening/watching, peace

God bless you gentlemen. Keep going, we are listening. Lord have Mercy

Knowledge seems almost always coupled with a temptation to instrumentalize or weaponize it. Whether this is absolute to every single bit of knowledge I can’t say but the most sacred of kinds of knowledge seem to me to be the most powerful and thus can be wielded for the most gain in both good and not good senses.

Fabulous talk. First I’ve heard Dave talk and while it took me a bit to get into groove with his style, I appreciated some great insights

Absolutely Brilliant..headed to Wisdom 2.0 tomorrow you should all be there..I will bring this with me