Neoplatonism and the Path of Transformation | Dr. John Vervaeke

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Published 2023-04-10
This is Dr. Vervaeke's keynote talk from the Consilience Conference.

This approach aims to cultivate wisdom through the connection between science and spirituality. Dr. Vervaeke delves into the importance of strong transcendence within naturalistic terms and proposes extended naturalism as a more comprehensive account of explanation. He outlines his plan to construct meta-convergent arguments to support his claims, including discussions on emergence, emanation, conformity theory, and the relationships between knowing and being.

Timecodes:
00:03:00 - Deep consilience as a connection between science and spirituality.
00:04:06 - Defining strong transcendence and its impacts.
00:04:44 - Extended naturalism as a comprehensive account of explanation.
00:11:42 - Generalization-discrimination trade-off and its importance.
00:15:22 - Probability in rolling a die and real information based on differences.
00:19:26 - Hole's argument about living things' causal power.
00:22:30 - Causal signals in living organisms and the need for higher level redundancy.
00:28:36 - Convergence of arguments supporting emergence and emanation framework.
00:32:31 - Where does actualization come from if the bottom level of reality is pure possibility?
00:34:22 - The need for both emergence and emanation in ontology.
00:38:14 - Emergence and emanation as completely interpenetrating.
00:41:34 - Pickstock's argument against gap-preserving distinctions.
00:44:22 - Debunking the theory-data distinction.
00:46:55 - Conformity theory and the interweaving of knowing and reality.
00:52:03 - Transjectivity being more real than subjectivity and objectivity.
00:53:14 - The inherently transjective nature of truth, relevance, life, and perception.
00:57:21 - Strong transcendence within extended naturalism.
01:02:17 - Reductionism as a presupposition causing difficulties in physics.
01:04:35 - Unifying knowledge and consilience for addressing the wisdom famine.
01:08:26 - Complexification of cognition and its relation to complexification in reality.

All Comments (21)
  • @missh1774
    Lazy thoughts are powerful prompts. It's the most overlooked or insignificant thing that is odd in your day. I sometimes pray for people to notice one little thing about nature in their day, and if you catch one, it has magic in its meaning to self if an unknown problem arises. Thank you John.
  • @mills8102
    Concise, rich yet also very accessible. I see this new paradigm forming and not only here. Thank you! 🙏
  • Im quite surprised that I followed your arguments so well. Likely, not an attribute of my intelligence, but rather your ability to communicate dense and otherwise inaccessible truths. Thank you John.
  • @Beederda
    Ever since I delved through your awakening from the meaning crisis series, i have been glued to your content. I appreciate your time, your mind, and your wisdom JV ❤🍄 you opened my mind to a world i was ignoring, and ignorant of, and i am eternally grateful, and thoroughly enjoying after socrates.
  • Yeah I'll be doing this twice, peace. Made it back to 15 minutes, glad I went 12 minutes back and listened again, even pulled a clip. Thank you John, and Gregg and all the others who have helped get us here, the future is yet to be written. Credit unknown.
  • @RealJonSarge
    In this articulation It reminds me of a paper I wrote in college about how I thought; As we get the expansion of complexity we ascribe a higher moral standing to that complexity. ( we ascribe higher importance to the complexity of math, biology, thought in the minds etc...) But as we go down in complexity we ascribe lower moral standing. ( we ascribe lower moral standing to micro organisms and as we move lower on the complexity pattern down into atoms and Quarks) As we move closer and closer to 0 on the complexity levels we have a harder time 1. predicting through Schrödinger equation; that the system is even detectable and 2. Ascribing any moral standing to that system. But as we move up the complexity of the pattern, it becomes detectable and as we detect the system we start have higher levels of understanding the system and how it manifests itself in the world. ( Sound slows down through a median for example) As we become aware of the system starting at the 'bottom up' system, like John mentions near 26:33 the top down emination is how we can affect the system at the bottom. And where we are able to affect the system we are actually interacting with that system at a higher ontilogical level. It seems to me that our higher ontilogical level is where we get the mobilization of Nietzches unmoralized "good and bad" Since we understand things at a higher level, anything under that level is seen as less than on the complexity of the observer. While this is only the thoughts of someone with just a BA in philosophy, I still have a lot to learn to develop my ideas. And watch this a few more times to better understand because I could be completely off in how I'm understanding and articulating this Comment I'm writing. The quote from this video I found profound was " You constrain probability enough it becomes actuality" I think if you applied this to all parts of your life you can create almost anything you want for yourself. Thank you for sharing.
  • @KalebPeters99
    John I'm 20 mins in and this may already be your best talk yet. The timestamps in the description are fantastic too (unfortunately they're not creating video chapters on the actual timeline, I think it's an issue with the format) Thanks so much John, and thanks to Gregg for putting the conference together, can't wait to see more from it 🙏
  • @gettingtogive
    Wow John! You argument just keeps getting clearer and clearer. I assume it’s partly because I have heard you make it multiple times in different ways, but my real sense is the clarity just keeps moving up levels (pun intended) Thank you as always 🙏
  • @Cryptosifu
    I absolutely fell in love with Neoplatonism after watching your videos. I feel that I align best with this belief system, if I can call it that.
  • @BrendanTietz
    Excited to listen to this. A few of your last talks have been great. I’ve been trying to understand my spirituality. I found your awakening from the meaning crisis series on the precipice of a “dark night of the soul”. This led to my spirituality which completely changed my life around, I’m happier than ever. I realize how contentious spirituality or religion can be yet it completely changed my life for the better. Coupling science and spirituality is needed within our culture.
  • I love you and I love your works. I am grateful to be alive to see how beautiful this world is. Thank you for opening the doors to perceiving and being an agent in the world. I hope I can meet you and learn from you in person one day. Godspeed!
  • This talk caused a gripping, and many of the concepts I have imported over the past few years of your talks and dialogues came together into a beautiful synergy. Your work has changed my understanding of existence and reality, and my life. Thank you.
  • I'm so glad you posted this! Can't wait to really dig in deep into this talk! It was, appropriately so, next level. ❤
  • @leonunes4343
    John, you did an amazing job here! Thank you for that. God bless you.
  • @zorga0001
    I love that you mention EO Wilson, I met him as a biology grad student years ago and have been inspired by his idea of the merger of science and art / humanities to get some momentum to deal with metacrisis. ❤
  • @GalenMelchert
    A strong presentation on this new paradigm. Thank you John it’s a pleasure to be able to listen to you present your work. This consilience is so exciting
  • @das3841
    Spot on! We really needed to get to this argument earlier than later. Thank you!
  • @memanjack
    This is wonderful. I keep sensing that reality is creative just like learning and living.
  • @benrohr
    Boom. That was quite a powerful revelation. Thank you for sharing and unfolding it in the manner that you do.