Why Dandori Battle Was A Disappointment

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Published 2024-04-05
Pikmin Versus Retrospective Part 1:
   • Pikmin 2's Overlooked Battle Mode (An...  
Pikmin Versus Retrospective Part 2:
   • Why Pikmin 3's Bingo Battle Is Peak  

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Season: 4
Episode: 32

00:00 - Picks For Men
01:28 - The Basics
03:32 - Settings
05:20 - The Map Variety Problem
07:24 - Map Breakdown
09:46 - What's Affected By The Changes
11:30 - Scoring
14:12 - The Removal Of Plucking
16:43 - New!™ Pikmin AI
21:18 - The Removal Of Win Conditions
22:06 - Sneak Bomb
23:13 - Items
25:07 - Rock Storm
26:53 - Items Continued
27:58 - Load Times
29:09 - Only Multiplayer In Pikmin 4
32:10 - Bonus Finders Keepers
33:57 - The Value Of Multiplayer
35:46 - Please Just Play Pikmin With Friends

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All Comments (21)
  • @leftasright
    My opinion is different than yours so this is clearly a skill issue despite you somehow winning matches by 300 points
  • @sarutanku
    My biggest disappointment in Dandori is that your Pikmin don't fight eachother at all. You can attack eachother's dog, but when it comes to contesting for items and resources, whoever has more Pikmin comes out as the winner and the losing Pikmin just lay on the ground until their cap whistles them up again. Like really?? Why are we taking away one of the most integral parts of 2 and 3's PvP in that you can make your Pikmin duke it out over resources
  • @Themacattack1209
    I feel like Pikmin 4 was primarily used to draw in a ton of new fans to increase the franchise’s popularity, which is why it’s so simplistic compared to the previous games. They probably just wanted people to play quick and simple matches together and didn’t want to add too much complexity to it.
  • @Ilikecatsl0l
    The only reason i play Dandori is when my brother walks by and i say "look at the pikmin PvP"
  • @BoulderWraith
    Shoutouts to the VERY small Competative Pikmin Battle Mode Community called Sprout House. They've been hard at work modding Pikmin 2's battle mode to make it the best it can be, while also trying to bring 2P Battle and sometimes Bingo Battle to it's strategic limits. They also stream tournament matches usually on weekends around 1-3pm CDT on Twitch! And they have a Discord server to hang out at as well!
  • @banjory6457
    Thank you for doing this retrospective, it was really interesting and fun to follow it. As a pikmin fan, it was dispointing to see that versus mods weren't getting not even half of the credit the main story has while they are a big source of potential for pikmin gameplay. Anyways, amazing job Silok, keep going like this, it's really nice to watch your fun and high quality videos !
  • @Pikachu_Gamer123
    pretty sure leafy showdown is only called that due to in the story being the final fight against leafling olimar(also it's a reasonable point to get the leafling appearance for your character so yeah)
  • @X-Cite69
    What I find funny is, during the story mode dandori battles.. if you have a second player throwing rocks, you can go on Olimar’s side of the screen and target him the whole game, not letting him get anything.
  • @edwheezer6231
    I've not played much versus, but I LOVE Pikmin 3's cooperative multiplayer. The treasure collecting stages are real fun, and Deluxe adding multiplayer to the main game was incredible; it's SO dang fun to play an entire Pikmin campaign with someone else- talking and strategizing and splitting up the work. Not many people talk about it, but it's legitimately one of my favorite multiplayer experiences. Cut forward a few years, and I was massively disappointed to learn that the only cooperative ""multiplayer"" in 4 was a cursor that could throw rocks. Maybe it's good, but I'm pretty sure it's not anything close to what I wanted. Really sucks that competitive also got the short end of the stick. Thanks to 4's popularity, I now know people who got into the series through 4 and WANT to play versus. And the versus is... alright, I guess. It's a real shame, here's hoping multiplayer Pikmin isn't dead. :(
  • @QuoteIzkewl
    As someone who has not played a SINGLE Pikmin game (though I watched a Pikmin 3 let's play and loved it), you still managed to keep my interest up for all these Pikmin vids purely just by going as in depth as you did and hyping it up as the greatest thing since sliced bread. I am now on my way to the store to buy 24 copies of Pikmin 4.
  • @PickleManSupreme
    I agree with you that the captain shouldn't respawn, but I think the dog should respawn after 30 seconds, though if both your captain and dog are down at the same time you lose. Also the dog shouldn't count to pikmin extinction, which should be a win condition, so it's viable to go for it.
  • @FireSonic225
    This kinda makes me wish there was actual multiplayer in Pikmin 4, maybe even 4 player co op?
  • @PixelPikmin
    Idk why, but I think dandori battle has way less content than Pikmin 3. I mean bingo battle has infinite options considering the boards are completely random. The maps were also way more interesting and difficult. Here it’s just 6 nearly identical maps with constantly respawning items. There’s only 1 Pikmin type per round, which is so dumb. It doesn’t feel nearly as competitive, just the sneak bomb but that’s it. All in all, I really hope the bingo battle appears in Pikmin 5.
  • Unironically more effort and thought was put into the Pikmin Adventure game from Nintendo Land than in the multiplayer for Pikmin 4.
  • @chibiinu1509
    It’s so sad that Dandori Battles were made like this. The concept worked for the main game but as a side mode it just sucks. ALSO FINALLY THE LAST OF THE THREE MULTIPLAYER MODES IS REVIEWED:3
  • @Pikmin442
    Honestly the way they should of done the dogs and characters is this. When they die they go back to the base but there health is on a timer. Basically like what happens to Moss in Heros Hideaway but quicker like 30 seconds.
  • @nachoguy707
    I swear, this man is a better critic than actual game critics. Give him an award.
  • @Blue_Pikmin77082
    Hey can we retakw the photo in the thumbnail? I was sick during it and im better now so we can we can take a better photo now.