Why We Can't Agree About The Last Jedi (Or Art In General)

My next video will be on something else, I swear. Just really felt the need to make this video! Hope you enjoy!

"when Rey learns she's the daughter of no one" simpler happier times....

Regardless of what you think of this movie or the others, I think the one thing we can all agree on is that this trilogy would have better overall if it was executed by one person with one vision for all three movies.

Damn. I somehow never twigged that it was a sunrise rather than a sunset. That makes the call-back even better.

I came for the articulate conversation, but I subbed for the seamless Skill Share transition.

shit man, when you said "a new hope" it gave me chills

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Also, during Luke's death, he's overseeing an ocean, a place filled to the brim with life, in contrast to the barren desert of Episode IV

Ain't it ironic that people don't agree with your "Why we can't agree.." video.

For a channel that once spent a whole video lamenting the over-reliance of bathos in Marvel movies, it's odd to me that you weren't bothered by its omnipresence in this movie

I have not seen the movie and honestly from what I have read and seen I am reluctant to. It goes back to how Han died, how he was a failure as a parent, husband, comrade. He abandoned everyone and ran off, backsliding to the life of a criminal because it was easier than facing his responsibilities. What I saw as character growth in the first Star Wars film, placing the lives of others ahead of his own self interest, was undone. Likewise we saw Leia as a failure since the First Order rose and she was unable either as a politician or political leader to take steps to prevent its rise or to form an adequate defense against them. Finally Luke was a failure as a teacher, a mentor, and rather than try to set things right he stole away to some remote planet to sulk. This is not like what Yoda or Obi Wan did, with the first being too old to fight and the latter actually serving a purpose, protecting Luke. My heroes were turned into pathetic screw ups and that is something I just did not want to see. Why should I give my money to Disney so they can show me how pathetic my protagonists, my childhood heroes, had become? Screw Disney, man. I don't need that sort of Star Wars in my life.

Hmm...I honestly feel like I gained a new perspective on the last Jedi.

"He overcomes the only force in the galaxy he hasn't conquered... Himself." Quality Star Wars pun.

i don't love The Last Jedi, and I don't hate it, but since my opinion on the Internet isn't extreme, apparently, it doesn't matter

Ben: You need a teacher! I can show you the ways of the force! Rey: You don’t need to, I’m taking a class for it on Skillshare.

I adore Luke’s storyline in The Last Jedi. What person doesn’t have to face some hard truths as they age. And although most people don’t have to face a failure on the level of Luke’s, we all face struggles. Of course the point of an epic fantasy is to show the challenges faced in an epic manner. And the fact that he overcomes his self-doubt, or how ever you want to describe what he is going through, is beautiful. He saves what is left of the Rebellion, faces Kylo in a way that avoids real violence and leaves the galaxy a new hope, dying with peace and purpose, as Rey states. BTW, I realize that many people share the complaint of Rey’s Force abilities. This is something that I wish this movie and The Force Awakens made clearer. The novelizations spell out that the connection forged by Kylo and Rey in her interrogation have allowed them to share memories, fears and skills. The novelization spells out that Rey feels like doors have been opened in her mind that allow her to access some of Kylo’s training. I hope they clear this up in The Rise of Skywalker, but I doubt it. One clever way that they represented this fact visually in The Last Jedi is through the lightsaber training Rey does on Ahch-To. If you watch the sequence of moves that she makes you will find that they are a mirror of the same moves, in the same order, that Kylo makes when facing Luke.

Tbh this trilogy would’ve been much better if Johnson had done the whole thing. The biggest problem with the last Jedi is how jarring it is. Perhaps if Johnson had control over 7 then it would’ve worked better

This is some serious next level analysis. You are rapidly becoming my favorite video essayist. I truly think that we will be talking about and analyzing the Last Jedi for years and years, perhaps way more than any other Star Wars movie, and I'm glad so many great writers have stepped up to provide a foundation for the conversation.

I think Wisecrack had the best take on this movie. They tried subverting the Star Wars tropes, but still relied on them for catharsis. Luke tells Rey she shouldn't expect him to face the First Order alone with a lightsaber, but that's exactly what he pretended to do. He burned the tree with the Jedi books, but only after Rey took them. Finn can't sacrifice himself, but that admiral does. It's almost like the director was too afraid. He wanted to destroy the cake but still save it for later, just in case the next director is hungry.

The movie was really about finding one's true path by reversing course. Rey wanted find her past but realized she must embrace her destiny and in doing so had to pick a path. Finn wanted to run away from the war and realized he had to fight against tyranny. Poe wanted to fight against all odds and had to learn humility, to trust authority, and use brains over brawn. Luke was disgruntled and even acted indignant when he asked Rey if he should take on the entire first order with a lightsaber and then he did just that when he realized that there are things to fight for. There was so much character development in the story. Rey, Poe, and Finn were just props in The Force Awakens but became multidimensional characters with story arcs in The Last Jedi.